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1 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 5:50:05am

An advice to Mark Brown: don't pretend to speak for everyone. Androids aren't creepy AFAIC :)

2 CuriousLurker  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 6:39:16am

Stop liking creepy stuff already. *glares suspiciously @ Sergey*

3 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 6:40:46am

re: #2 CuriousLurker

I never said I liked them ;)

4 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 7:03:21am

People are feeling paranoid, maybe?

Join the club.

5 CuriousLurker  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 7:19:19am

re: #4 RadicalModerate

I'm okay with robots that look like robots—as long as they're small—but anything bigger than a Roomba, or anything that tries to look human, increases my paranoia exponentially in direct proportion to how large/humanoid it is.

6 simoom  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:52:05am
7 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:03:32am

Using voice-based automated phone support systems does not only "creep" me out, it throws me into a seething rage! I especially hate the automated voices that are programmed with "vocal expressions." I much prefer to use push-button phone support systems.

I have to force myself to not become enraged when using the SYNC system in my car.

8 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:55:11am

This is an interesting but not surprising observation. People are genetically primed to react to face expressions, but with the underlying assumption that there is commonality in this and that one thinks that the other person shares similar feelings or reaction as oneself. It is called empathy.

With robots one sees the face but knows that there is no empathy, and that makes it creepy.

It occurs that it would be interesting to see if there was any noticeable difference in reaction between robots like this and autistic persons who, to varying degrees, have problems with relating emotionally.

9 Stoatly  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 12:16:15pm

re: #8 Naso Tang

The Keepon Bot is designed specifically to interact with autistic kids and the designers seem to know what they're doing - Keepon's well outside Uncanny Valley - but no empathy? I'm not so sure


10 Bob Levin  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 12:22:57pm

This might explain the behavior of the real life, live, employees in the Disney Zone.

11 researchok  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 1:43:54pm

Too weird for me.

12 shutdown  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 2:15:30pm
Why Brains Get Creeped Out by Androids

SUre, CL - it's interesting and sciency and all. But I would be much more interested in knowing "Why Brains Get Eaten by Zombies". Could you work on that, please? Be a dear...

13 CuriousLurker  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 2:46:55pm

re: #8 Naso Tang

It occurs that it would be interesting to see if there was any noticeable difference in reaction between robots like this and autistic persons who, to varying degrees, have problems with relating emotionally.

Intriguing question...

re: #9 Stoatly

The Keepon Bot is designed specifically to interact with autistic kids and the designers seem to know what they're doing - Keepon's well outside Uncanny Valley - but no empathy? I'm not so sure

[Video]

Extreme cuteness aside (I totally want one of those), that's a fascinating answer to the question of autistic children's reactions to the robot.

14 CuriousLurker  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 2:47:54pm

re: #12 imp_62

SUre, CL - it's interesting and sciency and all. But I would be much more interested in knowing "Why Brains Get Eaten by Zombies". Could you work on that, please? Be a dear...

Anything for you, imp. I'll get right on it. ;)

15 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 4:47:08pm

re: #9 Stoatly

Interesting, although I don't see a specific relation to autism except that a robot may provide the stimulus much longer than than a human can, and I don't know if there is a true connection between two "eyes" and a "nose" in a ball, and true interaction between real faces.

The video seemed more like entertainment than science to me, but perhaps there is more that was not said.

16 Stoatly  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 6:12:49pm

re: #15 Naso Tang

I watched a few 'tubes of this little chap (it's not easy making something so deceptively simple work so well)
They were all short and simplified for a "gee whizz" effect but from what I remember the kids interact with the "face" on the ball even when they refuse to with a human face, possibly because they are not getting distracted or confused by sensory overload (IIRC autism is, at least in part, a problem with filtering the huge amount our senses collect all the time)

Your idea that time may play a part makes sense, also maybe being so small and limited in reach makes it nonthreatening?

One guy was saying the kids are often rough with Keepon at first, but some end up "protecting" it from other kids - which suggests empathy to me, but I'm no expert on the human mind


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