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1 Achilles Tang  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:05:04am

I think this is not an uncommon name. Do we know it was not coincidence?

2 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 10:08:42am

re: #1 Naso Tang

Could be...

3 Bob Levin  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 11:48:08am

I noticed a huge difference in security procedures between the US and Israel. When in Israel they engaged us officially in conversation for several minutes, asking if I spoke Hebrew, listening to my answer, and asking a relevant question as a follow up--asking for innocuous information that wouldn't be memorized if I were up to no good. The impression was that we were engaged with highly trained, serious professionals.

This was not the case when both entering the US and getting on the last leg of our flight. There wasn't the sense of Security even caring about their jobs. And when this happens, the relevant data becomes whether a person is Muslim, as opposed to how quickly and with what demeanor I could name where I first learned to read Hebrew when I was 10 years old.

I was struck by the sentence in article--that, essentially, the trainer's group knew more than the FBI. What?

I think the lawsuit is a good idea, because nothing makes an organization more professional than the threat of lawsuit.

4 Bob Levin  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 12:09:42pm

Here's another story, about a conversation I had with a neighbor. To preface, we are both old enough to begin a story--'Way back when..."

The guy took a course from Clark Clifford. He said that everyone took the course, not for the content but for the anecdotes. One story he remembered was Clifford telling the story of being new to his post, asking for the file on Iran. What came back to his desk was one manilla folder with three cut out newspaper articles about Iran. That was it, the sum total of US intelligence gathering on Iran.

5 researchok  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 1:34:35pm

Bias is a part of the human condition. No groups are excepted.

Bias won't go away. However, it is in how we deal with it that determines our moral identity.

That isn't the perfect answer but by virtue of the fact we can talk about bias and discuss it is a positive sign.

6 CuriousLurker  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:22:00pm

re: #1 Naso Tang

I think this is not an uncommon name. Do we know it was not coincidence?

re: #2 Sergey Romanov

Could be...

Coincidence?

The Deputy Chief of the Columbus PD said Omari was a well known, respected professional in the state. The day after the accusations, the head of the local Joint Terrorism Task Force and one of the FBI's top agents in Ohio both assured the class that al-Omari wasn't a terrorism suspect. NPR says they later contacted nearly a dozen sources in the intelligence community, the FBI and at the Department of Homeland Security, all of whom said Omari has no links to terrorists or terrorism, and that the accusations against him are unfounded.

Yet Guandolo, up until the the time of his phone interview for the story, still insisted that he had his facts right and knew more than the FBI. How can that be interpreted as coincidence based on having a common name?

It is a smear, a character assassination based on innuendo, and it works because people's fear & distrust of Muslims can easily be played upon. How can Omari prove he isn't guilty of a bunch of vague yet damagingly defamatory allegations leveled at him? He can't, and the people who pull this kind of crap damned well know it and use it to their advantage.

In the meantime, the people who DO really want to hurt us get to go about their merry way leisurely plotting their next dirty deed, knowing that we're too busy spending mounds of our tax dollars chasing bogeymen constructed by opportunists to pay them any mind. We should be smarter than this.

7 CuriousLurker  Wed, Jul 20, 2011 8:27:14pm

re: #5 researchok

That isn't the perfect answer but by virtue of the fact we can talk about bias and discuss it is a positive sign.

Yeah, well thanks for the looking on the bright side, but that doesn't make me feel any better and it won't keep us safe. My thoughts from above apply equally here:

In the meantime, the people who DO really want to hurt us get to go about their merry way leisurely plotting their next dirty deed, knowing that we're too busy spending mounds of our tax dollars chasing bogeymen constructed by opportunists to pay them any mind. We should be smarter than this.


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