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1 CuriousLurker  Mon, Jul 25, 2011 5:21:11am
“not known…” But it is kind of fun to imagine a Cohen (Priest) sweeping down the street in Jerusalem 2,000 years ago, perhaps on a holy day, when the small bell detaches itself from his hem and rolls into the sewer - to be unearthed in modern Israel.

Fascinating stuff. The bell is lovely, fine craftsmanship. I wonder how it sounded when he was walking with a bunch of them attached to his hem…

Question time:

1.) So if Cohen = Priest, does that indicate that people with the surname Cohen descended from a priestly class?

2.) Were priests back then the same as rabbis now? I would think the answer is “yes” based on the Wiki entry, but I want to be sure.

3.) I know pomegranates are an important religious symbol for Jews, but does anyone know the significance of the bells? I’m certain they would have had a special meaning or they wouldn’t have been mentioned in Exodus and so finely carved in gold.

// If you’re gonna post historical, religious, or cultural stuff, be prepared for CL and her endless questions… ;o)

2 What, me worry?  Mon, Jul 25, 2011 7:16:49am

re: #1 CuriousLurker

Fascinating stuff. The bell is lovely, fine craftsmanship. I wonder how it sounded when he was walking with a bunch of them attached to his hem…

Question time:

1.) So if Cohen = Priest, does that indicate that people with the surname Cohen descended from a priestly class?

2.) Were priests back then the same as rabbis now? I would think the answer is “yes” based on the Wiki entry, but I want to be sure.

3.) I know pomegranates are an important religious symbol for Jews, but does anyone know the significance of the bells? I’m certain they would have had a special meaning or they wouldn’t have been mentioned in Exodus and so finely carved in gold.

// If you’re gonna post historical, religious, or cultural stuff, be prepared for CL and her endless questions… ;o)

lol Yes to #1, but there are other priestly names that do not necessarily sound like “Cohen” or rather “Kohen”. My maiden name is from the priest classes and is a different name. I had a website that listed many of the common names which of course, I can’t find, but I’ll send it to you if I come across it.

Yes to #2, same thing.

I don’t know about the bells. The priests did wear them. Could you imagine if it came from Aaron himself? I’m assuming it had something to do with either the priest “announcing” his presence to God when he entered the altar or maybe so the other priests could hear if he was still walking about inside the altar. Just to be sure he didn’t have a heart attack or fell or was incapacitated in some way. Only one man was permitted to enter at a time.

Gosh, I had a great slideshow on the whole altar ritual that went with my hard drive crash. I think my mom has it. It’s very cool if I could find it!

3 What, me worry?  Mon, Jul 25, 2011 7:39:36am

Speaking of Jewish names, did you know that Perez, Rodriquez and Lopez were Sephardi names? That is, Jewish Spanish names, Jews who were forced to convert to Catholicism during the Inquisition or be killed.

If that is your name, and of course, they’re very common, you very well may have a Jewish ancestor from 100s of years ago.

4 CuriousLurker  Mon, Jul 25, 2011 7:58:46am

re: #2 marjoriemoon

Thanks for the quick & complete answers. I’d definitely be interested in see anything you manage to find, especially the slideshow as it does indeed sound cool.

Interesting guesses on the bells. I had no idea about the rituals, so I didn’t know only one man could enter at a time. That makes sense.

re: #3 marjoriemoon

I wasn’t aware those were Sephardi surnames. Cool! No one in our family has them, but they are VERY common names, so there must be a lot of Sephardi descendants out there. Heck, there were a lot of Mexican Jews back in Texas, mostly from Monterrey—I was told there’s a big Jewish community there.


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