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1 Daniel Ballard  Sat, Jul 30, 2011 12:00:37pm

Seems to me the intelligent and tolerant path would be a display for welcome to all. Christian, Jewish, Muslim and Atheist. Each has a chosen icon for their belief. Where the atheists go off the rails is to claim no public displays should be allowed. As if a symbol does them harm.

Nobody deserves death threats over this, some Christians need to examine their anger and decide if anger is their chosen lifestyle.

2 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Jul 30, 2011 12:02:56pm

American Taliban.

3 Michael McBacon  Sat, Jul 30, 2011 12:27:00pm

Building an Islamic community center a few blocks away from the site of 9/11?

ANTI-AMERICAN!!!


Establishing Christianity as the single representative faith of 9/11 victims?

REAL AMERICAN!!!

Note: In all seriousness, these Xtians wishing violence on nonbelievers disgusts me too.

4 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Sat, Jul 30, 2011 1:41:59pm

I'm a smug atheist asshole, and I really wish other atheists would quit suing over petty bullshit like this. Seriously, guys, stop it. You're making me look like an idiot by the most tenuous association, when I am perfectly capable of looking like an idiot without any help from you.

You want a crusade? Focus on keeping religious influence out of public school curriculum. Stop lawmakers from making laws born of religious conviction. Worry about state governors who associate with guys who believe, quite literally, that the emperor of Japan was having sex with a desire demon, thereby causing all sorts of real-world problems. Worry about an organization that seems disproportionately populated by child molesters who enjoy the protection of an entity that is arguably more powerful than any secular government on earth.

Once all the genuinely life-ruining delusional religious bullshit has been laid to rest, THEN you can go about keeping Christmas decorations out of the city park or what-the-fuck-ever. Until then, you just look like a bunch of petulant crybabies, and you make me ill. [Lewis Black]Fuck you![/Lewis Black]

5 Off Colfax  Sat, Jul 30, 2011 2:01:37pm

re: #4 negativ

re: #4 negativ

I'm a smug atheist asshole, and I really wish other atheists would quit suing over petty bullshit like this. Seriously, guys, stop it. You're making me look like an idiot by the most tenuous association, when I am perfectly capable of looking like an idiot without any help from you.

You want a crusade? Focus on keeping religious influence out of public school curriculum. Stop lawmakers from making laws born of religious conviction. Worry about state governors who associate with guys who believe, quite literally, that the emperor of Japan was having sex with a desire demon, thereby causing all sorts of real-world problems. Worry about an organization that seems disproportionately populated by child molesters who enjoy the protection of an entity that is arguably more powerful than any secular government on earth.

Once all the genuinely life-ruining delusional religious bullshit has been laid to rest, THEN you can go about keeping Christmas decorations out of the city park or what-the-fuck-ever. Until then, you just look like a bunch of petulant crybabies, and you make me ill. [Lewis Black]Fuck you![/Lewis Black]

QF-fucking-T!

Face it. If you sit there and attempt to force a bunch of absolutists to compromise on everything and anything on the planet, you'll be getting a lot of fuck-offs.

6 Rocktheboat  Sat, Jul 30, 2011 3:25:01pm

re: #4 negativ

.......Focus on keeping religious influence out of public school curriculum. Stop lawmakers from making laws born of religious conviction...

Yes, please, give me freedom FROM religion! In America, which never stops congratulating itself on its democracy and liberties, that is a no-go area.

7 Locker  Sat, Jul 30, 2011 6:48:34pm

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

Seems to me the intelligent and tolerant path would be a display for welcome to all. Christian, Jewish, Muslim and Atheist. Each has a chosen icon for their belief. Where the atheists go off the rails is to claim no public displays should be allowed. As if a symbol does them harm.

Nobody deserves death threats over this, some Christians need to examine their anger and decide if anger is their chosen lifestyle.

It's not about public displays it's about public funding. I don't think anything that's publically funded should have anything to do with religion including all of the faith based schools and organizations who get tons and tons of our tax money.

8 Gus  Sat, Jul 30, 2011 7:45:30pm

As an atheist I have to admit that I have never gotten myself worked up in a lather over memorials as the one mentioned in this lawsuit. However, the particular atheists that may be involved do not speak for me and speak for themselves as American and have a right to legal redress if they choose to seek it under the US Constitution in 1st Amenment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

It is well within their right and to even suggest that they do otherwise is a slap in the face of what America is supposed to be about. We should not be ashamed and we should not cower to these threats and become meek followers of the status quo. We might not agree with those suits but that is the way this country has been run since it's following.

There is no excuse for the response this has received from the alleged commentators at the Fox News Facebook page. None whatsoever. No matter how distasteful they might find this suit and/or opposition the normal response should be through reasonable discourse and not bodily threats of harms and/or death. Atheists, whether you agree with them or not, should not cower in submission in fear of these threats.

The commentators are as un-American as you can find and worthy of a home in Pakistan. They are indeed the American Taliban and no amount of displeasure with these lawsuits will change that. So if they want to sue more power to them. It is their right and it is the American way.

9 Gus  Sat, Jul 30, 2011 8:00:46pm

Atheist James Doyle murdered in Iowa, belief blamed.

16-year-old James Doyle was shot in the chest by 14-year-old Daniel Nadler on June 27, 2010. Doyle was an Atheist, Nadler a Christian. They were arguing about religion at the time of the murder. Apparently, Christian + hormonal teen + argument about religion + shotgun = murder, but does not equal a hate crime. The case has been under reported in the press. Plus, it was not an accident.

Religious axe killer jailed

A man was jailed for 18 years after he went berserk and killed a man when he and his wife told him they were atheists.

The Murder of Larry Hooper

On October 18, 2004, Arthur Shelton, a self described Christian and Eagle Scout, murdered his friend and roommate, Larry Hooper, because Hooper didn't believe in God.

10 Rocktheboat  Sat, Jul 30, 2011 11:05:31pm

re: #8 Gus 802

There is no excuse for the response this has received from the alleged commentators at the Fox News Facebook page. None whatsoever.

As a non-believer, I prefer to take on the Muslim faith. It claims total primacy over all other faiths right off the bat. (Saudi Arabia's flag shows a huge sword. Questions, anyone?). Christians pretend to actually tolerate others and sound enlightened. But scratch that veneer and they will claim America as a Christian nation. In fact, conservative Christians are writing textbooks and america is OK with that. Scary, huh?

11 Achilles Tang  Sun, Jul 31, 2011 5:49:37am

re: #4 negativ

There is no need for the religious symbolism in this case. There were plenty of violently distorted pieces of steel in that event that would more vividly remind of it. Anyone could have been selected, as opposed to a relatively undamaged piece chosen because it resembles a cross.

However, since we hear the word compromise a lot these days, let me suggest that they place this piece of two beams intersecting at 90 degrees (as most cross beams do) turned 45 degrees so it rests on two ends. That way the Christians can just turn their heads to the side when they want to see a cross.

12 dragonfire1981  Sun, Jul 31, 2011 6:30:57am

re: #9 Gus 802

Atheist James Doyle murdered in Iowa, belief blamed.

Religious axe killer jailed

The Murder of Larry Hooper

Wait let me get this right: If you believe in God its ok to disobey one of the Ten commandments so long as the act is against an atheist?

The stupidity is stunning.


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