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1 Buck  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:01:59am

Microsoft is the author of the OS and applications for that OS. Is the application department the preferred vendor? Does that stop companies from developing applications for MS operating systems?

Google knows where the real profit comes from (which is good because Android is provided free) and they know the more handsets out there the better for their bottom line. I don't see them changing into APPLE and getting greedy any time soon.

2 shutdown  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:42:28am

MichaelJ, you are increasingly becoming a Steve Jobs shill. A vast majority of your recent posts are about Apple v. Google, and all of those are almost blindly supportive of Apple. Enough already.

3 MichaelJ  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 11:58:33am

re: #2 imp_62

So this post is about Apple vs Google. Amazing. I had no idea. I thought it was about Google acquiring Motorola. Thanks for straightening me out.

4 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 12:05:44pm

re: #2 imp_62

I support Google.

Apple is way over-rated. My supposedly pathetic Vista hasn't crashed in 2 years. Fallout 3 has issues, but that is because the computer isn't that powerful, and strains.

re: #3 MichaelJ

No but, you are taking the opportunity to bash Google at every turn. on this article, you are a concern troll.

How do like those Apple items made with child labor?

5 MichaelJ  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 12:14:12pm

re: #4 ProLifeLiberal

How do like those Apple items made with child labor?

right. I'm the troll here. I guess you didn't realize that many other companies get their products made in China in the same factories using the same workforce as Apple. I think you and imp_62 have to ask yourselves why you hate Apple so much that you feel the need to bring them up in a negative way in a topic that isn't even about Apple.

6 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 12:14:21pm

re: #4 ProLifeLiberal

I support Google.

Apple is way over-rated. My supposedly pathetic Vista hasn't crashed in 2 years. Fallout 3 has issues, but that is because the computer isn't that powerful, and strains.

You need a science skill over 90 to play Fallout 3 without stability problems.

7 Buck  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 12:25:05pm

I just don't like elevating APPLE into something they are not.

Just as evil as anyone (read Microsoft).

[Link: www.pcworld.com...]

Images submitted by Apple comparing the iPad2 and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 were doctored to make them seem similar.

8 MichaelJ  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 1:04:33pm

It seems the other manufacturers have spoken up about this and miraculously, they all say exactly the same thing. No spinning going on here, I'm sure.

9 ProGunLiberal  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 1:18:03pm

re: #8 MichaelJ

Considering the lawsuits Apple were handing out like candy, I'm not surprised.

Apple is doing the same thing that they did with computers back in the 80's to 90's.

Hopefully, it will end the same.

I despise Apple because of the little cult of worshipers it has, along with the fact that it is magnificently over-priced.

10 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 1:36:02pm

HAY GUYS I LOVE APPLE, GOOGLE SUCKS

11 shutdown  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 1:41:13pm

re: #5 MichaelJ

right. I'm the troll here. I guess you didn't realize that many other companies get their products made in China in the same factories using the same workforce as Apple. I think you and imp_62 have to ask yourselves why you hate Apple so much that you feel the need to bring them up in a negative way in a topic that isn't even about Apple.

I never said I hate Apple. I posted in response to one of your (many) other pro-Apple anti-Android pages that I have a mixed tech household. I personally use a MacBook Pro, which I like very much. My view, as stated, and after reviewing your last 20 pages, is that you are a predictable pro-Apple apologist with a highly blinkered view of anything non-Apple.

12 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 1:57:10pm

Cultist!!1!

//

13 MichaelJ  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 2:52:30pm

re: #11 imp_62

My view, as stated, and after reviewing your last 20 pages, is that you are a predictable pro-Apple apologist with a highly blinkered view of anything non-Apple.

And you are welcome to your opinion. Next, please.

I've always loved broad brushed, heavy handed, sweeping judgements of people. No one is forcing you to read anything I post.

14 Kaessa  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 8:37:19pm

What I'm hoping to see is Google making the Motorola devices "Google Experience" devices. Let the other manufacturers skin Android, and Google can now offer a clean Android device.

Here's hoping we've seen the last of MotoBlur.

15 MichaelJ  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:04:56pm

re: #14 Kaessa

I couldn't agree more. That's exactly why I said that controlling the hardware gives them a huge advantage. If they realize this and produce a unique, "Google Experience" device, that could prove to be the game-changer in the Android market.

16 Kaessa  Mon, Aug 15, 2011 9:13:08pm

re: #15 MichaelJ

I'm sure they realize this. They've been as frustrated as the users at the fragmentation and the pointless overlays by the manufacturers that delay updates and cause security problems to remain in phones ages after they're discovered.

I'm just crossing my fingers and hoping we'll see some unlocked bootloaders and naked Android on all of the Motorola phones from here on out, and hopefully on some of the phones that are already out. I'd kill for AOSP or Cyanogen on my Droid X2. At the very least, I'd love to be able to update my phone to the latest version of the software, just like I do with my computer. My last phone, a Samsung Fascinate, was running on software that was a year and a half old. Unsafe. Unsecure.

If this prods manufactures to look at their updating habits, it will be good for everyone, not just Google.

17 Buck  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 10:02:40am

re: #8 MichaelJ

It seems the other manufacturers have spoken up about this and miraculously, they all say exactly the same thing. No spinning going on here, I'm sure.

Ask yourself one question, would these same manufactures welcome the chance to make handsets that ran iOS?

You see, they want to compete. They believe they can. Google and Microsoft allow it, Apple does not.

18 MichaelJ  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 12:34:22pm

re: #17 Buck

I don't follow your logic, Buck. Apple allows others to compete. What they do not allow is licensing of their software. If another manufacturer wants to compete with Apple, they can. They simply do not want the kind of thing that is happening in the Android ecosystem to happen to their software. Kaessa spells it out pretty clearly in the post above yours:

They've been as frustrated as the users at the fragmentation and the pointless overlays by the manufacturers that delay updates and cause security problems to remain in phones ages after they're discovered.

Yes, Apple likes to control the end to end experience of their products. Some people like this because they happen to like the design and function of Apple products. Others despise this because they think Apple is too controlling. You can't have everything. Look at LGF - some people like to complain that Charles is too controlling when he bans people or deletes comments. Others feel that this control is what sets LGF apart from other sites, because it stimulates a more intelligent conversation. Same concept. There is no way to please everyone.

19 MichaelJ  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 12:49:13pm

re: #16 Kaessa

Thanks for understanding why I posted this in the first place. re: #8 MichaelJ

It seems the other manufacturers have spoken up about this and miraculously, they all say exactly the same thing. No spinning going on here, I'm sure.

Aha! I think I found out why the partners sound like the Stepford Wives. Classic! (disclaimer - this is meant to be humor)

20 Kaessa  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 1:29:53pm

re: #19 MichaelJ

LOL.. nice find.

On the serious side: Google buying Motorola, and all of those patents, may just save the Android platform that all of those manufacturers have so heavily invested in. Microsoft and Apple teamed up for a patent fight... well, Google just bought some heavy artillery.

21 Kaessa  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 1:43:50pm

What this will allow (I hope) is for the market to have a more varied Android phone experience. There are a lot of people who like the plain vanilla Android experience (me, for instance), and others who prefer the the skinned MotoBlur or SenseUI experience. With Android being open source, this will allow Google to have a branded Android "Google" phone, and the other manufacturers can shelter under the patents and still go their own way with their own "experience" that other users may prefer.

Hopefully that made sense. It did in my head, anyway.

22 MichaelJ  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:04:17pm

re: #21 Kaessa

If the playing field in the patent wars evens out, it may just settle down and allow innovation to resume unimpeded. That's what I am hoping for in the long run.

23 Kaessa  Tue, Aug 16, 2011 5:32:53pm

re: #22 MichaelJ

If the playing field in the patent wars evens out, it may just settle down and allow innovation to resume unimpeded. That's what I am hoping for in the long run.

As am I.


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