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1 Joanne  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 12:22:16pm

Unfortunately, one of the main reasons that Obama acquiesced to keeping the Bush Tax Cuts (or whatever you want to call them) is that the Republicans held the unemployment insurance benefits extension hostage.

The economy was so bad, so many people were out of work, AND it has been shown that $1 in unemployment = $1.61 in economic stimulus, that not having that extension would have not just hurt real people but it would have damaged the barely recovering economy further.

2 Lidane  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 1:11:49pm

Here's a comment for you -- why should I care about something you blogged almost a year ago?

3 Political Atheist  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 1:35:46pm

Oh man when do new episodes come out?
Reruns suck. LOL

Fortunately for the sake of stable governance, the legal bar for impeachment is much higher than what you would be suggesting here. Not re-electing these congressmen and women would be the best result.

Current law does not provide for recall elections of Congress or the Senate unfortunately.

4 mikiesmoky2  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:02:35pm

re: #1 JustJay

Unfortunately, one of the main reasons that Obama acquiesced to keeping the Bush Tax Cuts (or whatever you want to call them) is that the Republicans held the unemployment insurance benefits extension hostage.

The economy was so bad, so many people were out of work, AND it has been shown that $1 in unemployment = $1.61 in economic stimulus, that not having that extension would have not just hurt real people but it would have damaged the barely recovering economy further.

Jay,
Thank you for your comments.
Your offering is well-presented, but it was presented even better by the Administration as a piece of "retail politics".
The "hostages" element is what I have characterized as a "get-out-of-jail-free" card.

The following excerpt is from a piece I wrote, last December, which may explain my thinking on this:

President Obama did not cave!!!

How can President Obama be accused of having caved when it appears there is a possibility that he may have been a co-conspirator in a packaged “deal”?

It appears that the failed legislation, which would have extended unemployment benefits beyond the 99-week period, is a "get-out-of-jail-free" card for President Obama.

Had the extension of unemployment benefits been agreed to, what rationale would he have offered for signing off on the continuation of the Bush tax errors?

If it were determined that he was involved in a “deal”, he should be brought up on charges of conspiracy of defrauding the taxpayers.

In essence, this “deal” causes the United States to borrow from China or whomever, giving the funds to the top 2% of taxpayers, with all taxpayers and their posterity assuming the liability.

We, the People, should and must be outraged.

All should call, e-mail, write, fax and communicate in any other way to their Senators and Congresspersons defining this outrage and demanding the Impeachment of any and all who supported this legislation.

Had he stood up and not participated in this skulduggery, he could have shown the resolve and strength that should exemplify his responsibilities of his Office as the President of the United States, thereby winning the admiration, respect, and appreciation of our Nation and the rest of the world.

Jay,
More information is included in the LGF post @:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Again, thank you for your comments.

mz

5 mikiesmoky2  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:08:35pm

re: #2 Lidane

Here's a comment for you -- why should I care about something you blogged almost a year ago?

Lidane, your question deserves a simple answer.
Because it will affect all of our lives, which includes you.

My crazy guess is that you did not read the piece in its entirety, since you have no specific reference to anything with which you disagree.

Further, you may be a victim of the single greatest human frailty, i.e., tending to believe what you want to believe.

best,

mz

6 mikiesmoky2  Wed, Aug 17, 2011 3:29:33pm

re: #3 Rightwingconspirator

Oh man when do new episodes come out?
Reruns suck. LOL

Fortunately for the sake of stable governance, the legal bar for impeachment is much higher than what you would be suggesting here. Not re-electing these congressmen and women would be the best result.

Current law does not provide for recall elections of Congress or the Senate unfortunately.

D,
I am not concerned with "curb appeal".
Note that I had stated "redundancy is not always bad".
The redundancy is due to the critical nature of the subject.
If it bores you, that is your problem.
Again, you offer nothing with which you disagree or attempt to present incremental and beneficial information.
You appear to be a voyeur who gets a kick out of making negative remarks.

Your suggestion that Impeachment should not be considered reflects the lack of understanding of the seriousness of the subject.
The result of continuing the Bush tax legislation negatively affects all of our lives (think about the last few months regarding the apparently bogus "debt ceiling" question), and should be addressed as soon as possible.
It appears that you are posing as some type of technocrat who believes in formality over substance.
Perhaps you should look to practice law. lol

SUGGESTION: Think "positive", not "negative".

Thank you,

mz

7 Political Atheist  Thu, Aug 18, 2011 6:18:39am

re: #6 mikiesmoky2

Your suggestion that Impeachment should not be considered reflects the lack of understanding of the seriousness of the subject.

AKA
"It's not the evidence that matters it's the seriousness of the charges"

A rather disreputable concept really.

8 mikiesmoky2  Thu, Aug 18, 2011 8:25:23am

re: #7 Rightwingconspirator

Your suggestion that Impeachment should not be considered reflects the lack of understanding of the seriousness of the subject.

AKA
"It's not the evidence that matters it's the seriousness of the charges"

A rather disreputable concept really.

I assume you are referring to the seriousness of Impeachment and not of the Dec. 7 action by President Obama.

Obviously, both are extremely serious.

His signing the continuation of the knowingly malfeasant Bush tax legislation of 2001 reflects a naivete or a conspiracy to continue the fraud upon the citizens/taxpayers.

"Naivete", although not requisite for occupying the Office of the President, should not be justification for Impeachment.

If a conspiracy more accurately characterizes the matter, Impeachment should be considered.

Congress must be aware that the 2001 Bush tax legislation was based upon fraudulent testimony by Alan Greenspan on January 25, 2001.

When Senator Obama was running for the Presidency, he claimed that he would reverse the Bush tax "cuts".

After he was elected, he said he would allow those "cuts" to "sunset" on December 31, 2010.

His potential Impeachable action occured on December 7, 2010, and was accompanied by his comment that he believed what he was doing was wrong, but that he was forced to sign the continuation due to the "hostage-taking", i.e., that was his "get-out-of-jail-free" card, which enabled him to sign the continuation.

Are we involved in "class-warfare"?
Absolutely!
Since 1981.


mz


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