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1 aagcobb  Sun, Aug 28, 2011 5:58:18pm

It is astonishing to me that people can become so brainwashed they would rather allow their children to die than to permit a medical procedure as mundane as a blood transfusion.

2 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 28, 2011 6:02:02pm

re: #1 aagcobb

It is astonishing to me that people can become so brainwashed they would rather allow their children to die than to permit a medical procedure as mundane as a blood transfusion.

They see entry into Heaven in the next life as more important than sustaining this life. I think their interpretation of Scripture is a crock.

3 jaunte  Sun, Aug 28, 2011 6:23:45pm
McLane said the most recent case featured a typical dynamic: "The parents told doctors they would object to the transfusion, but wouldn't object to a court order compelling it." The parents didn't testify or try to disuade the judge from acting.

Who benefits from the parents' pretense of being compelled?

4 FreedomMoon  Sun, Aug 28, 2011 7:24:42pm

Since Jehovah's Witness by virtue of their religious indoctrination don't get involved in politics, the media, sports and other arenas visible to the public, unlike the Mormons for example, their beliefs pretty much fly under the radar--Meaning the kooky shit they believe in goes largely unnoticed. But they have an extremely shady background, claiming the end of the world was going to occur like 6 times in the last 100 years. And then you have this foreign blood non-grata for the body which is not only extremely bizarre but extremely stupid and dangerous.

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Aug 28, 2011 9:21:37pm

re: #3 jaunte

Who benefits from the parents' pretense of being compelled?

I assume they can see this as something that was done to them, rather than something they bear personal responsibility for. Or something like that.

Coming from a faith background that emphasizes that in matters of saving a life, nearly anything is acceptable, I find it hard to understand this at all.

6 Winny Spencer  Sun, Aug 28, 2011 10:43:23pm

Jehovah's Witnesses - The Cult of Death.

7 gehazi  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 8:46:29am

re: #3 jaunte

Who benefits from the parents' pretense of being compelled?

Try to put yourself in their shoes. On the one hand, they can't possibly want their child to die, which they will without a transfusion. On the other hand, some of their deepest convictions about life tell them that a transfusion is wrong and sinful.

Being compelled by a court-order is the best case scenario for them, since it means their child does not die, but that they have not been asked to willingly act against their own convictions.

8 gehazi  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 8:54:56am

re: #7 gehazi

To expand: despite the fact that I think their belief system is silly, archaic, and dangerous, I feel sympathy for these parents. Their religious faith, something that informs how they think about everything around them, is being thrown into direct conflict with the simple human obsession with protecting their children.

I'd hope that they come out of that situation with some serious introspection. "I almost let my child die because my religion!" May they ponder the purpose, the value of their beliefs, and start to consider that a philosophy that leads them down that road might need moderation or elimination, but none of that can make the crisis moment any less shitty to live through.

9 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 9:12:50am

Common. Sense.

10 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Mon, Aug 29, 2011 10:33:25am
"Somebody has to protect the best interests of the child."

Ugh, hearing that from the mouth of any FL official makes me cringe. I do think they did the right thing in these instances.


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