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1 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sep 5, 2011 6:33:07am

I don’t get it. The Israeli government demolishes the settler homes, and the settlers attack a mosque?

How does that make any sense?

2 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sep 5, 2011 6:36:24am

From another one of your links:

A few teens threw stones. In others instances teens and the police scuffled.

Doesn’t Israel have very stiff sentences for throwing stones at the police?

3 Pie-onist Overlord  Sep 5, 2011 7:41:49am

Any evidence other than “Palestinian sources” and their RHR shills that this was done by “settlers”? Not that I don’t think some extremists are capable of it, just that there have been a lot of bogus claims made before. The three links you posted at the bottom have nothing to do with the alleged mosque vandalism.

4 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Sep 5, 2011 9:23:16am

re: #3 Alouette

I think he was giving background on why the settlers were upset.

Israeli kids throwing rocks at the police does not sound good.

5 Bob Levin  Sep 5, 2011 10:12:51am

re: #1 Obdicut

It’s called “Price Tag” violence, and you’re correct, some folks are going to jail for this.

There’s no side to take here, there’s no wisdom, there’s no goodness, just sadness on all sides, from every perspective. However, because it’s going to make news, and because of the tendency to think of the settlers in two-dimensional terms, I wanted to at least combat that trend by telling a longer story.

6 SanFranciscoZionist  Sep 5, 2011 11:05:09am

Because when the situation isn’t bad enough, setting fire to a mosque will definitely improve it!!

//And the reaction is nearly instantaneous.

7 Bob Levin  Sep 5, 2011 12:15:21pm

re: #6 SanFranciscoZionist

Like I said, no wisdom. However, the lack of wisdom goes like this: if you think that kicking us out of our homes will placate the Arabs (unfortunately, they’ll make the jump to Muslims), then pick another strategy.

8 Eclectic Infidel  Sep 5, 2011 3:59:10pm

Are there any articles deal with the assertion that the land is privately owned by Palestinians? A friend on FB, a self-admitted Kahanist, insists that the court order is bogus and that land had been abandoned by Palestinians.

9 Rishonah  Sep 5, 2011 4:20:56pm

I am not so sure that this time it was Israelis. Not to say that they couldn’t have done it, or wouldn’t have done it, as they assuredly have other times.
But my suspicions were aroused when it turned out that this particular mosque was not in use and THERE WERE NO MUSLIM HOLY BOOKS in the place.

If this were a “price tag” attack, I think they would have picked a mosque in use. So I am extremely suspicious and reserving judgment.

10 Romantic Heretic  Sep 5, 2011 5:24:51pm

Having a Kosh moment.

“How will it end?”

“In fire.”

11 Bob Levin  Sep 5, 2011 6:57:31pm

re: #8 eclectic infidel

This is where so much of the complexity lies. Are there deeds to the land? In other words, just like in Chinatown, is there a hall of records where the plats are kept? After Oslo, who did the surveying if any surveying was even done?

We are also dealing with the Talmudic doctrine of Chazakah, where people can settle on land that is untouched or abandoned. If those who settle the land are there for three consecutive years, ownership passes to the settler. There is debate whether the ownership is over the land itself or the crops.

Whatever the case, this would be a matter of which legal code is primary, that of Israel, or that of the Talmud. Since the boundaries of the State of Israel are undefined, then how far is the reach of the State legal code?

12 Bob Levin  Sep 5, 2011 7:18:32pm

re: #9 Rishonah

I don’t think they would have picked a mosque that is in use because someone could have gotten hurt, and…you don’t want to burn books that others think are holy. There is a concept of Middah Knegged Middah (Karma) at work here.

I’ll post a link to further information about this incident here rather than on the big board because the entanglements of civil versus Talmudic law are complex, and because there is great confusion over the surveying, and therefore ownership of any of this land.

One might think that in nearly 70 years, someone might actually have addressed this issue. That’s how little progress has actually taken place.

So here’s another link:

13 Flavia  Sep 5, 2011 9:46:03pm

Just because something is understandable doesn’t mean it was right, or even smart. Sigh.

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