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1 Interesting Times  Tue, Sep 27, 2011 10:28:27am

Do. not. let. the. Paulbots. know.

2 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 27, 2011 10:39:47am

If machines can be compromised, and create no paper audit, it doesn't matter whether or not they actually are used to steal an election. The last thing holding the country together is the widespread trust that an individual's vote will be counted. If that belief is destroyed it's open season for 2nd Amendment solutions from both the right and left.

3 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Sep 27, 2011 1:26:09pm

re: #2 Decatur Deb

All machines can be compromised. I mean, technically, even paper is vulnerable to "hacking". But it's a lot harder to do and cover up than with electronic machines.

Electronic voting machines are a terrible, terrible idea even just in principle. Nobody who believes in democracy should advocate them.

4 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 27, 2011 3:45:44pm

re: #3 000G

All machines can be compromised. I mean, technically, even paper is vulnerable to "hacking". But it's a lot harder to do and cover up than with electronic machines.

Electronic voting machines are a terrible, terrible idea even just in principle. Nobody who believes in democracy should advocate them.

Yes. And this should be non-partisan. What one party creates will eventually be turned against them.

5 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Sep 27, 2011 3:52:21pm

re: #2 Decatur Deb

If machines can be compromised, and create no paper audit, it doesn't matter whether or not they actually are used to steal an election. The last thing holding the country together is the widespread trust that an individual's vote will be counted. If that belief is destroyed it's open season for 2nd Amendment solutions from both the right and left.

Just think of those close elections. Yeow.

6 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Sep 27, 2011 5:47:55pm

All I can say is what I know from my voting machine experiences. As a committeewoman in Philly I have handled the old Shoup machines. These old machines were used for many years. Some of them were close to 60 to 75 years old. They were mechanical and prone to breakdowns. When Philly went electronic the machines had to have a electronic recording box and paper print outs. Those are the types we use today and I do know they are not Diebolds. I am sure that someone could figure out how to "hack" if they wanted. I still prefer the very old method of voting. You are given a paper ballot and a small pencil or pen and you mark off who you are voting for. This is the system that is used in Canada and in some Amish communities.


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