Pages

Jump to bottom

4 comments

1 researchok  Tue, Sep 27, 2011 6:02:07pm

WW, hasn't this kind of (mis)reporting gone on for a while?

Seems to me the border crime 'dueling narrative' has been going on for decades.

It does seem to have escalated under Bush and Obama, though. Ah, the power of the internet.

2 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 27, 2011 6:10:01pm

re: #1 researchok

WW, hasn't this kind of (mis)reporting gone on for a while?

Seems to me the border crime 'dueling narrative' has been going on for decades.

It does seem to have escalated under Bush and Obama, though. Ah, the power of the internet.

You're right. I believe the purpose of lying about what it's really like at the border is to further the cause of those who say, "We must secure the border before we can address immigration reform!" If you ignore the statistics of fewer border crossers and the safety of border area cities, you can portray the border as something that will never be secure, therefore we never have to address immigration reform. Anyone who says "border security and immigration policy must be addressed together" is lying to you.

3 researchok  Tue, Sep 27, 2011 7:32:02pm

re: #2 wrenchwench

You're right. I believe the purpose of lying about what it's really like at the border is to further the cause of those who say, "We must secure the border before we can address immigration reform!" If you ignore the statistics of fewer border crossers and the safety of border area cities, you can portray the border as something that will never be secure, therefore we never have to address immigration reform. Anyone who says "border security and immigration policy must be addressed together" is lying to you.

I agree with that. Border security and immigration are distinct issues with very different agendas.

I don't believe that is a controversial notion. What remains is how to depoliticize the issues, with outside interests having undue influence- certainly on border states.

4 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 28, 2011 7:51:01am

re: #3 researchok

I agree with that. Border security and immigration are distinct issues with very different agendas.

I don't believe that is a controversial notion. What remains is how to depoliticize the issues, with outside interests having undue influence- certainly on border states.

It is perhaps THE controversial notion when it comes to immigration. A quick look, border security must precede immigration reform, shows people from Ron Paul and John McCain to John Huntsman and Gabrielle Giffords saying "security before reform". It looks like generally libertarians and liberals take either the view you expressed, that they are separate issues, or that immigration reform will help secure the borders.

You are correct that it must be depoliticized. I don't see it happening. Race is a large factor in the opposition to immigration from south of us, and it's so hard to change people's views about race, that I can't see the right wing letting go of "We Must Secure the Border First". And "No Amnesty", and "No Dream Act", those are just "bait" that will lure more border crossers.


This page has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT
LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal
Cash.app
Recent PagesClick to refresh
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ...
Cheechako
Yesterday
Views: 73 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
Cheechako
4 days ago
Views: 169 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1