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1 reine.de.tout  Oct 2, 2011 9:37:57pm

Link was screwed up- fixed now.

2 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Oct 3, 2011 1:48:35am
The name on Perry’s hunting lease is, at the very least, an embarrassment that should have been dealt with long before now.

Dealt with in what way?

How do you think this information got out in the first place, save for people trying to deal with this “embarrassment”?

A friend of mine suggested Rove, which would make sense, given his Bush loyalism, and antipathy towards Perry. But time will tell, I suppose.

But here’s a piece asking a different question: How did his family afford that lease, to begin with? (FrumForum, for those of you wishing to avoid the taint of reading anything by any conservative).

It’s no “taint” to read things by conservatives trying to spare themselves embarrassment by fellow conservatives who grew up on n*****head Ranch. I find it very entertaining, in fact. Thanks for the link!

3 Decatur Deb  Oct 3, 2011 1:51:14am

re: #2 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Dealt with in what way?

…snip.
It’s no “taint” to read things by conservatives trying to spare themselves embarrassment by fellow conservatives who grew up on n*****head Ranch. I find it very entertaining, in fact. Thanks for the link!

My guilty pleasure.

4 Decatur Deb  Oct 3, 2011 1:59:53am

re: #1 reine.de.tout

Link was screwed up- fixed now.

You Louisianans just have a totally unjustified suspicion of the probity of state officials.

5 The War TARDIS  Oct 3, 2011 7:00:54am

re: #4 Decatur Deb

There better be sarcasm there.

/hal

6 reine.de.tout  Oct 3, 2011 7:16:21am

re: #4 Decatur Deb

You Louisianans just have a totally unjustified suspicion of the probity of state officials.

*snort*

7 Lidane  Oct 3, 2011 7:39:45am

re: #2 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

A friend of mine suggested Rove, which would make sense, given his Bush loyalism, and antipathy towards Perry. But time will tell, I suppose.

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was Rove.

Karl Rove has been working for ages to position Mitt Romney as the presumptive nominee. Now here comes Rick Perry. There’s no love lost between Perry and George W. Bush (in fact, most accounts here in Texas suggest they hate each other), and Rove doesn’t like him much either. Might as well pull out all the stops to destroy Goodhair’s ambitions now instead of letting him get anywhere past the primaries.

8 KingKenrod  Oct 3, 2011 8:44:55am

My family is from the Haskell/Throckmorton area, and it doesn’t surprise me that long-term residents have substantial money for leasing properties. The area is known for ranching/farming/oil drilling, and any long-term established landowner is going to be doing well. I have an uncle in Haskell who earned almost $900000 in the last 15 years just in crop/livestock subsidies for a small piece of land near Lake Stamford, and Perry’s father was a cotton farmer with his own land as well as leasing other land that he farmed. Paint Creek is portrayed as some kind of depression-era backwater, but it’s really just productive farming land with easy access to water from Lake Stamford since the 1950’s.

9 reine.de.tout  Oct 3, 2011 9:09:24am

re: #8 KingKenrod

My family is from the Haskell/Throckmorton area, and it doesn’t surprise me that long-term residents have substantial money for leasing properties. The area is known for ranching/farming/oil drilling, and any long-term established landowner is going to be doing well. I have an uncle in Haskell who earned almost $900000 in the last 15 years just in crop/livestock subsidies for a small piece of land near Lake Stamford, and Perry’s father was a cotton farmer with his own land as well as leasing other land that he farmed. Paint Creek is portrayed as some kind of depression-era backwater, but it’s really just productive farming land with easy access to water from Lake Stamford since the 1950’s.

I just heard from my brother-in-law who lives in Dallas:

Hunting leases in Texas are priced according to how many acres are being leased, the quality of the hunting potential, and also of course how many people are allowed as members. Landowners typically lease to one person who then finds and collects from the other members.

(my son) and I have hunted doves in Throckmorton County. It is a fair hunting county, but not prime, is much better for birds than deer. A 1000 acre lease probably means there were maybe a maximum of 4 or 5 members.

A lot more acreage is needed for hunting in West Texas vs. say Arkansas or Louisiana because the land tends to be open country rather than wooded much.

The ranch owner who owns the lease we were on in Scurry County (farther west than Throckmorton County) is I have heard the largest landowner in the county. I think he owns something like 25 sections. That’s 16,000 acres. A large part of that is in cotton fields, none of which he personally farms i.e. he leases the cotton acreage for farming only. The guys who lease the cotton fields are farming fields of several thousand acres, with very expensive equipment which the farmer owns not the landowner. They also have a number of employees, seasonal I imagine. They are technically “tenant” farmers, but they are probably pretty well off, although cotton I’ve been told is a feast or famine proposition from year to year.


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