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1 researchok  Mon, Oct 3, 2011 5:59:52pm

Which is a nice way of saying we can go after them.

2 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:04:55pm

I still want to find out the changes in how it's been prosecuted over the years. If it ever was a Naval (Military) matter and when it changed to a domestic crime.

I'm thinking back to the days of Jefferson . . .


Need . more . time.

3 researchok  Mon, Oct 3, 2011 6:47:43pm

re: #2 ggt

I still want to find out the changes in how it's been prosecuted over the years. If it ever was a Naval (Military) matter and when it changed to a domestic crime.

I'm thinking back to the days of Jefferson . . .

Need . more . time.

Good question.

I thought piracy in the high seas was always a military matter. I don't know how/why/when the change was affected.

As for Jefferson, the Libyan piracy matter was resolved as a military affair. See the wiki

4 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Oct 3, 2011 7:37:29pm

re: #3 researchok

Good question.

I thought piracy in the high seas was always a military matter. I don't know how/why/when the change was affected.

As for Jefferson, the Libyan piracy matter was resolved as a military affair. See the wiki

from my very brief research:

in Ancient times, a pirate was considered a traitor to his native land and punished accordingly.

During the height of the British Empire, it was considered under the jurisdiction of the British Admiralty and a death penalty was carried out. Until the early 1700, pirates were actually transported to London, tried and hung at the Old Bailey.

After the Pasha or whomever quit hiring the Corsairs to do his bidding, the Barbary Privateers turned to Piracy and exacted tribute from nations to keep from attacking their ships -- as of 1783 the US had paid $2M in tribute and Thomas Jefferson said ENOUGH. On August 1 of that year, he declared war on Tripoli and thus Piracy was a Military affair.

American law in 1820 defined Piracy as robbery at sea.

In response to the Achille Lauro incident, In 1988 the Rome Convention on the Suppression of Unlawful . . . . defined Piracy but did not outlaw it.

I guess America is unique in that we actually have a reference to Piracy in the Constitution. Piracy ceased to be an issue that the newer nations have not addressed it in their laws. There is a bit about Geneva Conventions and UN Policy, but nothing other than the definition of Piracy, not the prosecution or protocals of prosecution.

It seems that it is up to the nation or entity that apprehends the Pirates to decide.

So, I haven't found the answer either.


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