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WASHINGTON - New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious operation as far back as July 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress.
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shutdown Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:40:14am |
In the past, I have cautioned posters not to assume that the President's inner circle - much less the President himself - had any direct knowledge of Fast and Furious based solely on the actions of Under-Secretaries and advisors to the NSA. With this report, however, the horseshoe is getting a lot closer to the post. This could get ugly for the White House, and the timing could not be worse.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:45:59am |
Has Eric Holder taken responsibility? Regardless of what he knew, he was in charge and responsible. If he would accept responsibility and be transparent about the ensuing investigations, it would be a non-troversy.
Fast and Furious and GunWalker were shitting operations, ATF et al should just admit at and move on.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 9:54:26am |
re: #2 ggt
Has Eric Holder taken responsibility? Regardless of what he knew, he was in charge and responsible. If he would accept responsibility and be transparent about the ensuing investigations, it would be a non-troversy.
Fast and Furious and GunWalker were shitting operations, ATF et al should just admit at and move on.
This could be the ATF's worse fuck-up yet. And I hold Ruby Ridge to be the mother of all dumb-ass operations.
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Political Atheist Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:04:06am |
A timeline of events, including unfortunate denials...
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BishopX Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:16:56am |
Reposting from the overnight thread:
So I just read the memo Holder got. It was a weekly briefing, 3 pages long, with 15 bullet points. The only unredacted bullet point is the fast and furious one. It reads:
Tuscon Gun Trafficking (D. Arizona): On October 27, the Organized Crime and Gang Section (OCGS) indicted eight individuals under seal relating to the trafficking of 228 firearms to Mexico. The sealing will likely last until another investigation, Pheonix-based "Operation Fast and Furious," is ready for takedown.
That's it. He heard the words once 9 months before he said he did. Big whoop.
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Political Atheist Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:47:05am |
re: #5 BishopX
That's all that has been proven, so far. The trouble is we had denials that were later disproved time after time. Credibility is falling. It's also worth noting CBS dug this up, not the Atty Generals office or ATF. What else lurks in emails and file cabinets?
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Political Atheist Tue, Oct 4, 2011 10:49:44am |
re: #3 ggt
This could be the ATF's worse fuck-up yet. And I hold Ruby Ridge to be the mother of all dumb-ass operations.
Good point. We'll see if any Agents take the 5th on this one. Ruby Ridge was a terrible scandal. Innate suspicions of a separatist and that combined with an informant in need to impress the agents. Entrapment and internal intrigue. Then a botched seige.
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Holidays are Family Fun Time Tue, Oct 4, 2011 12:16:58pm |
re: #7 Rightwingconspirator
Good point. We'll see if any Agents take the 5th on this one. Ruby Ridge was a terrible scandal. Innate suspicions of a separatist and that combined with an informant in need to impress the agents. Entrapment and internal intrigue. Then a botched seige.
Horribly botched seige. A baby died.
They shot a kid and a baby. Our Government, on American Soil.
Why the ATF is still in existence is beyond me
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