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1 researchok  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:46:39pm

Who the hell is in charge at the DOE??

2 Interesting Times  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:49:33pm

Are the same people complaining about Solyndra complaining about other things much, much worse?

Panel: Widespread waste and fraud in war spending

The U.S. has lost billions of dollars to waste and fraud in Iraq and Afghanistan and stands to repeat that in future wars without big changes in how the government awards and manages contracts for battlefield support and reconstruction projects, independent investigators said Wednesday.
The bipartisan commission, created by Congress in 2008, estimated that at least $31 billion and as much as $60 billion has been lost in Iraq and Afghanistan over the past decade due to lax oversight of contractors, poor planning, inadequate competition and corruption. "I personally believe that the number is much, much closer to $60 billion," Zakheim said.

Or, to put that in picture form: Loss of taxpayer dollars in billions of dollars

3 lostlakehiker  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:49:55pm

re: #1 researchok

Who the hell is in charge at the DOE??

It's just like with Reagan's shuttle launch. The president doesn't understand how important it is to underlings that the president get his photo op.

So even though everybody knows it's a bad idea from the point of the public interest, their private interest is to see that the president's photo op goes off on schedule. If there's pieces to pick up afterwards, blame will be diffuse. If the photo op is scrubbed, blame will be easy to assign.

4 Interesting Times  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:52:18pm

Dozens of Republicans Asked for Clean Energy Grants and Subsidized Loans Before Attacking Them

Republicans have seized on the Solyndra controversy to go on a witch-hunt against all clean energy programs authorized by the Department of Energy. Instead of narrowly scrutinizing the loan that subsidized Solyndra, a company that utilized a Republican-created program and had initially gained approval from the Bush administration, Republicans are on a war path to defund all clean energy programs — despite the fact that these Republicans previously were proponents of the program when it helped clean energy companies in their districts. As Climate Progress’ Stephen Lacey has reported, Republicans are now expanding their inquisition to include killing a program that employs veterans to install solar panels.

5 Interesting Times  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 12:56:08pm

More details about Republicans using Solyndra to impose job-killing regulations (killing jobs for veterans and their families, no less)

6 blueraven  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 1:11:58pm

Industrial policy is nothing new.

George W Bush practiced it:

But even in the US, industrial policy is making a comeback. President George W. Bush spent years and billions of dollars pushing a hydrogen car. It got nowhere, and, while hydrogen may eventually become commercially viable for stationery sources, its use for transportation must still overcome some serious obstacles (including flammability and combustibility that is an order of magnitude greater than that of gasoline).


What ever happened to all those billions invested in hydrogen fuel cells?

The hydrogen fuel cell was presented by the film as an alternative that distracts attention from the real and immediate potential of electric vehicles to an unlikely future possibility embraced by auto makers, oil companies and a pro-business administration in order to buy time and profits for the status quo. The film corroborates the claim that hydrogen vehicles are a mere distraction by stating that "A fuel cell car powered by hydrogen made with electricity uses three to four times more energy than a car powered by batteries" and by interviewing the author of The Hype About Hydrogen, who lists five problems he sees with hydrogen vehicles: High cost, limits on driving range due to current materials, high costs of hydrogen fuel, the need for entirely new fueling compounds, and competition from other technologies in the marketplace, such as hybrids.


7 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 2:43:17pm

re: #2 publicityStunted

Isn't that a hindsight / strawman argument?

I mean the waste we might blame on contractors or Dick Cheney, or GWB in no way gives us reason to ignore costly additional contemporary errors.

Or give this administration a fraud and waste pass as long as the scale of it stays below the wars. Or pretend this administration is not responsible for fraud and waste in Iraq and Afghanistan during this administrations watch.

8 Interesting Times  Wed, Oct 5, 2011 4:27:27pm

re: #7 Rightwingconspirator

Or give this administration a fraud and waste pass as long as the scale of it stays below the wars. Or pretend this administration is not responsible for fraud and waste in Iraq and Afghanistan during this administrations watch.

The reason ClimateProgress compared war waste to Solyndra was to illustrate media/GOP hypocrisy and ulterior motives. In other words, if you're truly concerned with gov't fraud/waste, why not reel in bigger fish? Why pay such grossly disproportionate attention to Solyndra? The answer to that is easy - the GOP wants to use this to smear and destroy the entire clean energy industry, and the shallow, cynical media is merrily helping them along.

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