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1 HappyWarrior  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 8:24:27am

I would ask him why this fantasy of his hasn't adversely affected the Israeli, British, and Canadian militaries who allow gays to serve openly. The guy is paranoid as hell about being raped by gay men. What a loser.

2 SteelGHAZI  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 8:43:38am

Gotta love how the most vocal opponents of gays always have the most vividly detailed fantasies about them.

3 calochortus  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 9:07:25am

re: #2 SteelPH

Gotta love how the most vocal opponents of gays always have the most vividly detailed fantasies about them.

That's not terribly surprising. I don't spend any significant amount of time thinking about homosexuality because it doesn't interest me. The same is true of gambling-I'm lousy at it and it either makes me nervous or bores me. One tends to focus on the 'sins' that could affect one's own life in one way or another.
Someone with an interest, or who was (or knows someone who was) abused will have a different view. That doesn't mean they get to legislate for everyone on the basis of their own fears.

4 JEA62  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 10:17:43am

I don't gamble because A) I suck at picking winners and B) don't have a lot of money to lose.

As for Santorum, he really thinks about this issue far too much to not be a closet-dweller.

5 nines09  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 10:26:59am

Rick has really thought this out. Really thought it out. What a total buffoon.

6 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 11:01:31am

Oh, for the love of Mike!

So to speak...

7 Kruk  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 11:06:14am

Dude. I read the title of this page and threw up in my mouth a little.

8 aagcobb  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 11:12:41am

That's why I got fat; I can't go to a gym cause teh gehz might rape me in the shower!!11!1

9 Genshed  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 12:04:44pm

I think some nominally heterosexual men try to imagine what it would be like to be a gay man showering with other men. What they come up with is what it would be like for THEM to be showering with women, and that would be a big problem. What they do not go on to consider is this - most of us gay men have had the shower experience in high school. We know what naked male bodies look like, and how to refrain from improper social interaction with them.

The cartoonist Eric Orner addressed this years ago, when his character Ethan Green is in the barracks shower. In response to a taunt from a straight guy, he replies, "I would not touch you if you were the last gap-toothed, whale-bellied, pimple-butted, yellow-toenailed straight boy on Earth, which you are, sadly, not." and goes on showering.

Last panel, straight guy is heard off-panel, "Sarge! The gay guy is making fun of my physique again!"

10 What, me worry?  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 12:16:35pm

re: #6 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, for the love of Mike!

So to speak...

ROFL Now that's comedy!

My husband has "love handles". Even at his most awesome, svelte Army self, he still had that extra bit of fat around his hips.

One of his sargents made a comment about him coming out of the shower, "Good grief, I've never seen anyone with an ass on top of his ass." My husband isn't gay, nor was the sargent gay, but it's a dude thing, or an Army thing, ripping on the guys.

Anyway, if they kept gays out of the military completely, they'd still be ripping on each other. And you know what that means, don't you? ALL MEN ARE SECRETLY GAY Muuhhaaahhaa.

11 Obdicut  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 12:23:46pm

re: #9 Genshed

I've showered and done plenty of other naked stuff with women. I'm a heterosexual dude. It's amazingly easy not to let that translate into... I dunno what Santorum even thinks would happen.

12 calochortus  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 12:47:20pm

re: #11 Obdicut

I've showered and done plenty of other naked stuff with women. I'm a heterosexual dude. It's amazingly easy not to let that translate into... I dunno what Santorum even thinks would happen.

OK, but you are an intelligent, classy guy. My husband could presumably do the same. I'm going to guess that you believe we are all sexual beings, but rational beings as well so that you can control those natural urges.
If you blame women (or men) for attracting you and luring you into sin, and try to keep them locked away so you don't have to bother to exercise any self-control, then I suppose actual availability becomes a problem.

13 Archangelus  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 1:49:34pm

Having served in the IDF years ago after the parents dragged us all to Israel, I can testify to the fact that there were various gay men and women serving with me during my service, from boot camp to the day I my service ended.

Do you know how much it affected me and the others serving with them?

Nothing. Nada. Zero. Efes.
Not a single damn bit.

Perry and his ilk are just pathetic.

I do have to point out that the IDF doesn't actually have an "open" policy pertaining to gays, per se, so much as a general "we honestly don't care, so long as you don't make a big damn issue about it" policy for everyone and everything...

re: #2 SteelPH

Gotta love how the most vocal opponents of gays always have the most vividly detailed fantasies about them.

This, so very much. I, for one, certainly didn't spend any time pondering about "shower fantasies", like Mr. Perry here. Sounds like someone needs to see a professional to deal with certain issues...

14 Four More Beers  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 2:26:00pm

I guess ol' Google My Name has never heard about that thing they use in the military called the code of conduct.

15 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 3:45:42pm

One of many problems with these people like Santorum is that they are looking at people as sexual objects. They have objectified gay men down to just sex.
Santorum is trying to make gay men take responsibility for his inability to see them as a whole, complex person.

I also wonder what Santorum thinks of lesbian women showering with straight women?

16 dragonfire1981  Sun, Oct 9, 2011 4:32:01pm

re: #15 Cankles McCellulite

One of many problems with these people like Santorum is that they are looking at people as sexual objects. They have objectified gay men down to just sex.
Santorum is trying to make gay men take responsibility for his inability to see them as a whole, complex person.

I also wonder what Santorum thinks of lesbian women showering with straight women?

If he's as hetero as he claims, that's probably a common scene in some of his favourite movies. :P


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