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1 aagcobb  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 12:12:34pm

I wonder how many of the Alabama bigots are going to volunteer to pick the crops rotting in the fields since this racist law drove most of the field hands out of the state?

2 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 12:27:18pm

I know that there are a lot of people who claim that their Anti-immigration hate has nothing to do with white supremacy. But i have to ask, when you are picturing these illegals in your mind, are they Hispanic (Mexican)? And would your hate towards illegals be the same if the illegals in your mind were European Caucasians?
Would you join a yelling fest in front of a school to protest illegal immigrant children attending it if the children in question were Irish or German?
Would you celebrate water being cut off from Swedish undocumented workers?
Would you spit at a group of young Swedish women walking into a factory known to be hiring illegal Swedish immigrants?
Do you even know how many western Europeans are in our country illegally?

3 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 12:37:36pm

re: #1 aagcobb

I wonder how many of the Alabama bigots are going to volunteer to pick the crops rotting in the fields since this racist law drove most of the field hands out of the state?

I'm so angry. I'm so sad and so frustrated. Every week, we're hearing new repercussions of this despicable legislation.

Remember ALABAMA and remember RACISM.

- 4 little Black girls burned in their church
- Rosa Parks
- George Wallace
- KKK

And add these new names to the list (see bill HB56).

- Judge Susan Lovelace Blackburn – Approved HB56

- Alabama Governor Robert Bentley – Signed HB56

- Alabama Legislature who support Racism. EVERY ONE A REPUBLICAN.

Rep Canfield
Rep Gaston
Rep Williams (J)
Rep McClendon
Rep Bridges
Rep Sanderford
Rep Williams (P)
Rep Hammon
Rep Wren
Rep Treadaway
Rep Rich
Rep Collins
Rep Roberts
Rep Williams (D)
Rep Johnson (R)
Rep Moore (B)
Rep Henry
Rep Hubbard (M)
Rep Long
Rep Baughn
Rep Nordgren
Rep Chesteen
Rep Merrill
Rep Johnson (K)
Rep Patterson

So the next time you hear a Republican spouting off on how the Democratic party is keeping down minorities and how we're bunch of bigots, you can point them here.

4 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 12:42:25pm

This is inhumane. I have to say the worst are the bigots who think cutting them from medical services is a good policy. This legislation is disgusting. I've long criticized the anti illegal immigration movement for refusing to see these people as fellow human beings and this legislation has done just that.

5 Obdicut  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 1:20:24pm

re: #3 marjoriemoon

People could easily die from this.

6 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 1:31:30pm

re: #4 HappyWarrior

This is inhumane. I have to say the worst are the bigots who think cutting them from medical services is a good policy. This legislation is disgusting. I've long criticized the anti illegal immigration movement for refusing to see these people as fellow human beings and this legislation has done just that.

It's not going to survive. It's unconstitutional, though they're trying to find a way around it by tying the driver's license into it. You can't have XYZ if you don't have a valid license. But that's just bullshit and they know it.

Alabama, though coastal, is not a border town. As if racism would be ok in Texas or Arizona. But from a state STEEPED in racism, you would think this is something that they wouldn't even want a hint of a racist perception. Obviously quite the exact opposite.

7 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 1:45:51pm

re: #5 Obdicut

People could easily die from this.

Oh yea, for sure.

Jim Crow lives.

8 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 1:49:42pm

Once again I hear Walt Kelly: We amazed our friends abroad and astounded our enemies at home. They had no idea that we were so soft in the head and hard in the heart.

9 HappyWarrior  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 2:05:01pm

re: #6 marjoriemoon

It's not going to survive. It's unconstitutional, though they're trying to find a way around it by tying the driver's license into it. You can't have XYZ if you don't have a valid license. But that's just bullshit and they know it.

Alabama, though coastal, is not a border town. As if racism would be ok in Texas or Arizona. But from a state STEEPED in racism, you would think this is something that they wouldn't even want a hint of a racist perception. Obviously quite the exact opposite.

Yeah it will be ruled unconstitutional. I agree with you though. You'd think they want to avoid being tagged with the racist tag but it seems they don't care.

10 Decatur Deb  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 2:09:29pm

re: #9 HappyWarrior

Yeah it will be ruled unconstitutional. I agree with you though. You'd think they want to avoid being tagged with the racist tag but it seems they don't care.

I wouldn't make any bets about this USSC. Until it is ruled unconstitutional these mofos intend to make what they can of it. And yes, my county probate judge is among those mentioned.

11 What, me worry?  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 3:37:12pm

re: #10 Decatur Deb

I wouldn't make any bets about this USSC. Until it is ruled unconstitutional these mofos intend to make what they can of it. And yes, my county probate judge is among those mentioned.

I know folks in Alabama like yourself who are good folks, of course, and if this was happening in my state, I don't know what I'd do. At this point, it's too late to call your representative and I'm sure many people already did that to know avail. It's just awful.

12 calochortus  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 3:54:47pm

So aside from the question of undocumented residents, you now have to be a licensed driver to get water in Alabama? Or is that only true if your surname is say, Lopez?

The elderly, people with medical conditions, folks who can't afford or don't want a car-no water for you! Good luck with that.

13 dragonfire1981  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 4:36:05pm

re: #5 Obdicut

People could easily die from this.

It's sad that when I read that, my mind added on "...and I'm sure that's exactly what some of the people behind the bill actually want."

14 funky chicken  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 4:59:23pm

Hey, I lived in Montgomery county twice, and getting the water turned ON there was a major hassle. The water companies aren't nice down there. And they will turn off your water very quickly if you don't pay your bill.

I'm not sure how illegals get their water turned on there. We had to have two forms of picture ID, from what I recall, and they did a credit check. My husband's an Air Force officer, there on assignment. They may have even asked for a copy of his orders. No joke!

15 Atlas Fails  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 6:28:23pm

Excellent post, MM. This deserves front page promotion, imo.

16 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Oct 10, 2011 8:47:38pm

This makes no sense to me. How is the Water Company going to pay it's bills without all that income? Is the water company publically held? This is really financially negligent.

17 What, me worry?  Tue, Oct 11, 2011 8:19:46am

It's gone beyond water, although I read this morning in either the Huffpo or NPR that the water issue is for NEW customers only, but I have my doubts. This is Alabama, a state steeped in some of the worst racism in the country.

Image: 171759-alabama-immigration-law.jpg

There's a panic among the Hispanic community in Alabama and many are fleeing. The state is trying to put out that fire, but really, what did the expect?

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

The state education department has sent Spanish-language audio files to radio stations promising listeners that the immigration details they collect will not be passed on to federal officials, but to the Legislature to tabulate how many illegal immigrants were in schools.

It seemed to be working, education spokeswoman Malissa Valdes said: On the Monday after the ruling, 2,285 Latino students, about 6% of the statewide total, stayed home from school. Two days later, the number was back down to 4%, the typical rate of absence.

I want to know what is the state going to do with the info on how many "illegal immigrants" (I really hate that term) are in the schools.

Monica Hernandez, an organizer with the Southeast Immigrant Rights Network, advised the parents not to open the door for anyone unless the person had a warrant — and to give only their name and address to police until they could obtain the services of a lawyer.

The parents asked about rumors: Could the police nab you just for walking your kids to school?

No, Hernandez told them, the police must be conducting an investigation and must have a "reasonable suspicion" that a person is here illegally.

Is it true they are targeting male drivers, not female? No, she said. And no to many others.

No? Really? Pastor Manuel Hernández was stopped, brought to jail and never told of his charges. The first thing he was asked for was his legal documentation.

The detective questioned the validity of all his documents, the pastor said. The officer also told Hernandez that he was committing a crime for having a chaplain identification cared [sic] with the state’s official seal.

"[The officer] accused him of not being a pastor," said Fernando Rodriguez, who is a pastor at a different church, the House of Prayer Church in Albertville, Alabama, who had been traveling with Hernandez at the time. The officer also questioned Rodriguez, a native of Honduras, on his immigration status but fortunately he had his green card.

And then there is the case of Mohamed Ali Muflahi arrested Friday, but he is here LEGALLY. This small article is flimsy. He was arrested for "obstructing a government operation". What the hell does that mean??

18 What, me worry?  Tue, Oct 11, 2011 8:30:01am

re: #16 ggt

This makes no sense to me. How is the Water Company going to pay it's bills without all that income? Is the water company publically held? This is really financially negligent.

They don't care. They'll just pass the loss onto the white paying customers. Someone will pay it. They won't lose a dime.

On the other hand, when you pay $3 for a tomato, you'll know why.

Immigration law author tells farmers: No changes

Republican state Sen. Scott Beason of Gardendale met with about 50 growers, workers, brokers and business people Monday at a tomato packing shed on Chandler Mountain in northeast Alabama. They complained that the new law, which went into effect Thursday, scared off many of their migrant workers at harvest time.

"The tomatoes are rotting on the vine, and there is very little we can do," said Chad Smith, who farms tomatoes with his uncle, father and brother.

"My position is to stay with the law as it is," Beason told the farmers.

In the LA Times article I posted above is this:

Some businesses are already feeling the effects. In northeast Alabama, the owners of Smith & Smith Farms were trying to harvest 90 acres of tomatoes with three trucks of workers each day instead of the usual 12.

"We have hired some whites," said Kathy Smith, wife of co-owner Leroy Smith. "Some of them work out a little bit. Some might work three hours and they quit."

19 What, me worry?  Tue, Oct 11, 2011 8:37:53am

re: #17 marjoriemoon

Ooo update to that. Mohammed Ali Muflahi was arrested in a drug raid, apparently, with two other men, but that he would be charged with "obstructing a government operation" is odd. I'm guessing we'll never hear the whole story here.


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