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1 philosophus invidius  Thu, Oct 13, 2011 2:41:50pm

Opponents like to say costs can be brought down with tort reform. But they don't take into account that people in this country often need to sue for huge amounts in order to pay for huge medical bills. Our current system with tort reform would probably make the bankruptcy problem worse.

It can happen in America.

Sigh. I guess we can try again in 25 years.

2 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Oct 13, 2011 2:59:38pm

I've only ever known, personally, of one person who died because of a waiting list here in Canada. But there were only three doctors in the world who could perform the operation she needed. I don't think any medical system could deal with that.

Ultimately the problem boils down to the difference in goals between private and public health care systems.

A private health care system's goal is to make a profit. There are only two ways to do this since the market is fixed in size. Raise prices or cut costs. The first places needed care out of reach and the latter reduces the availability of the care. It can't be helped since making a profit will be reduced if prices stagnate or costs increase.

A public health care system's goal is to provide health care. It may be concerned with prices or costs but that is simply to improve its ability to meet its goal.

But, in my opinion, in the States 'Private is better. Profits force businesses to provide cheaper,' is pretty much a religion in some quarters. Facts are just not going to affect their faith.

3 nines09  Thu, Oct 13, 2011 6:34:01pm

Well that money has to go in someone's pocket. Too much money to be made on misery. People with a job and no health issues usually have no clue what awaits if they lost both. It's a rude and cruel reality and happens every day. Do everything right and have a piece of the sky hit you and yours. Greatest Nation on The Face of The Earth. American Exceptionalism. Eat Your Own.

4 laZardo  Thu, Oct 13, 2011 8:40:14pm

The problem with getting Single Payer in America is the bureaucracy we have. In the EU and Japan/Korea's case, they had to build theirs from scratch after WWII, which gave them the advantage in creating a culture of care. Try to do the same here in a culture where exceptionalist politicians are also keen on profit, and the growing pains might be too much.

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