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1 Bob Levin  Oct 18, 2011 5:35:13am

Do you really think these guys are going to start ravaging other Jews? No, you probably don’t. They will go down in the very long list of damn fools. They don’t get to make up halacha, and part of halacha is that you don’t try to hurt another man’s livelihood. I would expect strong rabbinic condemnation for this, not to mention their friends telling them to knock it off.

This is a slightly different reaction than what ensued from the Taliban’s terrorizing average citizens.

2 Randall Gross  Oct 18, 2011 7:54:53am

Bob I am being consistent. I consider it terror when someone scrawls a swastika on a synagogue, or the KKK burns a cross, or shop windows get smashed because you dislike what the shop’s selling, whether the shop’s in Quetta or Jerusalem. If a scantily clad woman walked by them they would curse and spit at her or worse, just like the Taliban in Miranshah. They are religious zealots trying to control other people. If the shop sells CD’s they don’t like then the taliban intimidate the shop owner. Before Zia al Haq, those movements were small and Pakistan International Airways stewardesses were portrayed like this in Ads. Things changed a lot by allowing a small group of zealots free reign too long, now Pakistan’s crows are home to roost. It’s violence and misogyny to intimidate someone they disagree with. In my books the KKK, IRA, MEK, Kahanists, Shining Path, Black Bloker’s, and Sikikrim are all terrorists - I try to be consistent and I don’t quibble about degrees once people start breaking laws to intimidate. If they thought they could get away with burning the shop down, they would.

In Pakistan there were lots of people telling the Taliban to knock it off. That didn’t happen, and I continue to see these articles so it’s a continuing thing.

3 Bob Levin  Oct 18, 2011 1:28:48pm

re: #2 Thanos

You can be consistent, but you can be wrong at the same time. I see your point, that these folks are trying to intimidate another through grotesque force. The problem is that the Taliban really believes that their religion sanctions this (whether it does or not isn’t my area of expertise), these people know that their religion, my religion, does not sanction this. It can’t be any more clear. If I had to guess where this is going, it’s not towards a government takeover, but rather, some dudes are going to jail.

You could categorize this as crime, but as you correctly observe, they have a greater cause—in their minds. If it goes on too long, they will invite the Shin Bet inside of their group. Besides the clear violations of civil and religious law, they are also causing problems for tourism. There isn’t a chance in hell this behavior will grow into a movement.

If they thought they could get away with burning the shop down, they would.

I think this is a point in my favor. They don’t think they can get away with it, they know they can’t. They barely think they can get away with what they are doing, and for a short time, they can, over a longer time, they can’t. It won’t make headlines when they stop.


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