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1 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 21, 2011 9:56:30pm

I agree about your statement on the Bay Area, but to me this part you quoted is what really put the match to the gasoline in Oakland and is forcing a confrontation:

Protesters angry at economic inequality have sought to establish a mini-society in the plaza free of government control, and some have spoken of occupying the area for months. They have established perimeter patrols in an effort to keep out police officers, and have not reported crimes to authorities, choosing instead to try to handle problems themselves.

No American city can tolerate having parts of it publicly designated as "No Go Zones" (to bring a term from the 'Troubles' in Northern Ireland across the pond). So the police have to act and take back control of the park. Because if you tolerate an area where to law is openly declared worthless, the entire city is put at risk.

Note: This does not apply to other cities like New York. The protesters in New York have not tried to obstruct the police from carrying out their duties, nor tried to usurp those duties. But then again, the NYPD is much better regarded in its city, with the most recent poll showing 60+ percent approval of New York's Finest.

2 Bob Dillon  Fri, Oct 21, 2011 10:04:51pm

Home of the Black Panthers.


3 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 21, 2011 10:17:11pm

re: #2 Bobibutu

Home of the Black Panthers.


That's another part of the reason for the attitudes of the protestors, though they have not gone as far as the Panthers went (the original Black Panthers at times actually resorted to ambushing police). But its the same sort of direct challenge that cops cannot accept without putting their lives at great risk.

4 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 21, 2011 10:44:43pm

re: #2 Bobibutu

Home of the Black Panthers.


True, although how relevent, I do not know--the Panthers are now mostly in late middle age.

5 Bob Dillon  Sat, Oct 22, 2011 4:47:25am

re: #4 SanFranciscoZionist

As DF pointed out ... its an attitude thing and it is ingrained in Oakland culture. (I'm 4th generation Oaklander).

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