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1 researchok  Tue, Nov 1, 2011 4:05:06pm

The Schön scandal all over again.

2 Bob Levin  Tue, Nov 1, 2011 5:29:18pm

re: #1 researchok

The problem might be more fundamental. In Schon, the experiments could be repeated. That can’t happen in psychology because you can never eliminate sample bias. I just saw this the other day. Eli Roth did a show where he repeated Milgram. Same general results, but statistically, a researcher could make the case that we are getting worse. We’re not. But the differences in results would most likely prove statistically significant.

3 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 1, 2011 9:38:24pm

And we wonder why people are susceptible to faux-science?

The MSM will report on anything—and never explain the study is not double-blind, placebo controlled or duplicated.

They’ll cherry-pick what they think will sell and leave the rest.

A myriad of articles get published and only a few people read them. I can see how a researcher trying to make a name and eventual fame and fortune, book tours and a slot on daytime TV might play the odds.

So may disciplines have been splintered it’s difficult for ANYONE to get an overall picture of an issue and ask simple common sense questions.

4 Bob Levin  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 4:01:45am

re: #3 ggt

It’s purely a matter of tenure, and then bringing grants and glory to the university. But publicity through certain avenues. Mass media publicity is seen as a negative.

5 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 10:01:32am

I am not trying to bash psychology as a field, or say that it has no merit. However, this is much easier to do in the soft sciences than the hard ones. At the end of the day, unless you are talking about hard cognitive science, all psychology comes down to statistics based on comparatively small samples that are often difficult to reproduce because people are frankly funny creatures.

In the hard sciences, firm measurements are made of things that don’t change their minds. If someone cooks their books on something that draws any attention, another experiment or measurement or calculation will come out and show the fraud very quickly.

6 Bob Levin  Wed, Nov 2, 2011 1:10:26pm

re: #5 LudwigVanQuixote

As I said the other day, this debate has been going on for decades. Actually, about a century, to be technical. In fact, it’s so fascinating I’m thinking about posting some video where this debate serves as the foundation. James Burke’s, Connections and The Day the Universe Changed.

Ultimately, it gets down to whether you see all science as closely woven into culture, even creating culture, or whether you believe that the method is the thing that transcends culture.


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