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1 Bob Levin  Thu, Nov 10, 2011 2:06:26pm

I think we're just used to it. It's been going on for a long time, not only being tracked by the government (which is slow in this regard). My bank knows everything about us, where we are, what we do--since almost every activity involves some kind of electronic financial transaction, Wal-Mart can almost read my mind, Amazon and Google know my thoughts.....

No, it's not the same thing as government surveillance--but the government would simply have to access all that's already floating around in The Cloud.

2 Political Atheist  Thu, Nov 10, 2011 2:23:21pm

re: #1 Bob Levin

I think we're just used to it. It's been going on for a long time, not only being tracked by the government (which is slow in this regard). My bank knows everything about us, where we are, what we do--since almost every activity involves some kind of electronic financial transaction, Wal-Mart can almost read my mind, Amazon and Google know my thoughts...

No, it's not the same thing as government surveillance--but the government would simply have to access all that's already floating around in The Cloud.

I'm not used to it. The fact that I have a phone and a phone bill (a lot of data about me right there) should in no way reduce the need for a warrant for the police to tap my line or examine my bill should still stand. Probable cause needs to stand in the way.

3 Bob Levin  Thu, Nov 10, 2011 2:55:01pm

re: #2 Rightwingconspirator

Is there a lot of resistance to this by the public, or is it simply moving along as any other item that comes before the court?

4 Political Atheist  Thu, Nov 10, 2011 3:48:30pm

re: #3 Bob Levin

I think this is largely slipping by under the radar. After all the really important news of the day is that cain in the ass Herman Cain. ///

5 Bob Levin  Thu, Nov 10, 2011 3:57:10pm

re: #4 Rightwingconspirator

And you remember a day when this story would be front page news? Yes you do. We both do. So something has changed.

6 Bob Dillon  Thu, Nov 10, 2011 5:58:13pm

re: #5 Bob Levin

Congress stampeding and passing the Patriot Act (without reading it first) put this kind of stuff into overdrive.


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