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1 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Nov 18, 2011 6:26:53pm

Israel needs America's support. To get that support he must connect with the most passionate American supporters of Israel. These people, thanks to their passion and focus, can affect American politics quite a bit.

When you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.

2 SanFranciscoZionist  Sat, Nov 19, 2011 12:01:50am

re: #1 Romantic Heretic

Israel needs America's support. To get that support he must connect with the most passionate American supporters of Israel. These people, thanks to their passion and focus, can affect American politics quite a bit.

When you've got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.

These people are not good allies. They are not even reliable allies.

This is a TERRIBLE idea.

3 Obdicut  Sat, Nov 19, 2011 2:57:19am

I received a specific denial from the Prime Minister's office (I wrote to them) saying he wouldn't be at the conference, but they didn't answer a further one asking if he'd be speaking via a teleconference linkup or a pre-recorded message. I'm hoping that this is a lie on the part of the Awakening organizers.

4 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Sat, Nov 19, 2011 3:00:45am

re: #3 Obdicut

I really don't see any reason for such a hope. It's a "high-ranking" enough event for its organizers not to lie about such things. Nor would there be much of a surprise about such an appearance given that it's Netanyahu we're talking about. Though eventually he will probably cancel the participation anyway.

5 The Ghost of a Flea  Sat, Nov 19, 2011 3:14:43am

re: #1 Romantic Heretic

Israel needs America's support. To get that support he must connect with the most passionate American supporters of Israel. These people, thanks to their passion and focus, can affect American politics quite a bit.

When you've got them by the balls, their hears and minds will follow.

The problem is that this gathering of "passionate supporters" aren't interested in Israel as a living functional nation. At this event you've got a mix of religious people who want fulfillment of John's Apocalypse and Islamphobic people who see Israel as the front line of the civilizational war versus Islam: neither of them is interested in what's good for Israel...or what Israelis want from their government. Their "support" is conditional on a bunch of criteria regarding Israel's foreign policy (hawkish towards Iran and the rest of the ME), handling of issues relating to Palestine and settlements (no two-state solution, continued expansion of settlements), et cetera. If there is a policy change by Israel (as a result of elections) it will be interesting to hear how they change their tune about "support."

6 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 19, 2011 5:39:46am

re: #5 The Ghost of a Flea

The problem is that this gathering of "passionate supporters" aren't interested in Israel as a living functional nation. At this event you've got a mix of religious people who want fulfillment of John's Apocalypse and Islamphobic people who see Israel as the front line of the civilizational war versus Islam: neither of them is interested in what's good for Israel...or what Israelis want from their government. Their "support" is conditional on a bunch of criteria regarding Israel's foreign policy (hawkish towards Iran and the rest of the ME), handling of issues relating to Palestine and settlements (no two-state solution, continued expansion of settlements), et cetera. If there is a policy change by Israel (as a result of elections) it will be interesting to hear how they change their tune about "support."

Add a third element--hardcore TPGOP aparatchiks who don't spend a moment's real concern on Israel or Christianity.

7 Michael McBacon  Sat, Nov 19, 2011 12:14:09pm

re: #5 The Ghost of a Flea

Yes, and the Arutz Sheva/Kahanist crowd are dumb enough to parrot Xtian-supremacist talking points. If I could sum up the mindset it would be, "Who cares what happens to Israel as long as we wipe out Islam?"


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