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1 freetoken  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 1:43:44pm

Gee, COP17 starts in six days.

Is this a coincidence? Hmmm….

2 Interesting Times  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 1:45:26pm

If the excerpt is anything to go by, this is a very poorly written article by the NYTimes, playing right into the deniers’ hands by downplaying the complete vindication of the actual data and scientific work done by the CRU. It completely misses the larger point, made very plain by Joe Romm:

Leftovers, again? One climate scientist calls the email dump, “Two-year-old turkey from Thanksgiving 2009.”

These are the “second string” emails. The Varsity team couldn’t derail the science so it’s really hard to see how the Junior Varsity team could. In other words, if multiple independent investigations showed that climate science was unscathed by the original batch of emails — which must have been the ones the deniers thought were the best they had — then what precisely are the chances these even weaker second-stringers are going to beat the climate science team? After all, the climate science team has gotten considerably stronger in recent years.

3 freetoken  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 1:48:14pm

re: #2 publicityStunted

Yes, and the so-called criticism (more like a smear job) ” in particular efforts to hide data from opponents ” still refuses to acknowledge that the big brouhaha over the dendrology data wasn’t really East Anglia’s fault at all, since they did not own the data to begin with.

4 funky chicken  Tue, Nov 22, 2011 2:30:51pm

UN Climate conferences are a waste of time and money that should be spent on solar panels and power plant clean-up. They can do teleconferencing or could have regional meetings at selected universities connected by video link. There’s no reason to keep having these “consensus building” boondoggles…just fix things.


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