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1 researchok  Fri, Dec 30, 2011 11:17:47am

It seems to be a gray area.

The companies are engaged in legal enterprise. That said, just because something is legal doesn't mean the activities can't be problematic.

2 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 30, 2011 11:30:50am

re: #1 researchok

It seems to be a gray area.

The companies are engaged in legal enterprise. That said, just because something is legal doesn't mean the activities can't be problematic.

I don't see any gray. This is not terror. It is arguably trespassing, theft. A crime. Not an act of terror. The Patriot ct is used 85% of the time for non terror threats and crime. Time to put a stop to that, IMO.

3 researchok  Fri, Dec 30, 2011 11:43:41am

re: #2 Rightwingconspirator

I didn't mean to imply it was terror. I should have been more clear on that. I do believe it is crime. There is a lot that can be done prior to to resorting to criminal activity to address a grievance.

I agree with your remarks re Patriot Act excesses.

4 vanfield  Fri, Dec 30, 2011 11:48:40am

I thought this would be about those folks who post all those cutesie kitten videos on Youtube.

Now those are the guys they need to keep an eye on.

5 Archangelus  Fri, Dec 30, 2011 12:01:32pm

re: #1 researchok

It seems to be a gray area.

Not when it comes to the provisions of the Patriot Act.
I've witnessed terrorism; I've survived terrorism; This doesn't even come remotely close to qualifying, not by a long shot, and the fact that the provisions of the PA are once again being used for something they were never intended should be outraging everyone back home.

It may be legitimate for the FBI to operate vis-a-vis these folks in conventional law enforcement measures, given the issue of legality. But not like this.

6 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 30, 2011 12:24:23pm

Uhhh....has anyone bother to check facts before freaking out? I'm guessing no because I debunked this within 2-3 minutes by reading the source material and checking google. It doesn't take much but go ahead and knock yourselves out imagining that America has become an oppressive police state.

7 Decatur Deb  Fri, Dec 30, 2011 2:35:05pm

re: #6 Killgore Trout

Uhhh...has anyone bother to check facts before freaking out? I'm guessing no because I debunked this within 2-3 minutes by reading the source material and checking google. It doesn't take much but go ahead and knock yourselves out imagining that America has become an oppressive police state.

America is far from an oppressive police state. It's a scunch closer than it was in 1999. Just a scunch.

8 Political Atheist  Fri, Dec 30, 2011 2:59:57pm

re: #6 Killgore Trout

Given the general quality of LA Times reporting and extensive coverage at Wired, I had some faith.

What was untrue?


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