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1 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jan 22, 2012 5:05:43pm

The popular assumption has come to be that the signs, and what they represented, were limited to the South, but that wasn’t the case.

My parents encountered them in mid-60s southern California, the most liberralist place on earth.

2 researchok  Sun, Jan 22, 2012 5:49:24pm

re: #1 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Good point.

Those kinds of sentiments were found in New England as well.

3 aagcobb  Sun, Jan 22, 2012 6:21:30pm

In the mid 70’s, I was assigned textbooks in school that were so old they still had stamps in them to check whether they were for use in “white” or “colored” schools.

4 calochortus  Sun, Jan 22, 2012 7:05:01pm

I’m happy to say I don’t recall ever seeing one in the SF Bay Area, though I do remember when housing discrimination was outlawed and the furor over whether you had a right to decide to whom you would rent property.

And I remember my elementary school being desegregated (defacto segregation, not de jure) by busing in kids from the majority black community and putting 3 black children in each class. I don’t believe any white kids were bussed into the neighboring black community…

5 FreedomMoon  Sun, Jan 22, 2012 7:19:07pm
The Ohio Civil Rights Commission upheld a ruling that a landlord in Cincinnati who had posted a “White Only” sign on the gate to her swimming pool had violated the Ohio Civil Rights Act. The landlord, Jamie Hein, who is white, said the sign was an antique, intended to be a decoration;

Oh yeah, an “antique/decoration” because racism can be so cute, especially when it comes from an era where it was legal. I’ve never lived outside of California but reading these stories gives me the impression that the further inland/south you travel the further back in time you go too.

6 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jan 22, 2012 7:58:11pm

re: #4 calochortus

San Francisco has a very nasty history of segregation, and not just against us.

Whites-first/whites-rule/whites-only segregation was enacted against Asian Americans including Filipinos, Japanese, Chinese; against Native Americans, as well as Latinos, especially Mexican-Americans.

7 calochortus  Sun, Jan 22, 2012 9:01:44pm

re: #6 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Oh, absolutely-I’m not trying to suggest that the Bay Area was particularly noble-just that we got over it earlier than some places. Race has never been an issue that “pushed my buttons” and I credit both the family I grew up in and the fact that I grew up in the Bay Area. I just wasn’t exposed much to overt racism and being White it was easy to miss the more subtle forms.

8 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Sun, Jan 22, 2012 10:25:19pm

re: #7 calochortus

Oh, absolutely-I’m not trying to suggest that the Bay Area was particularly noble-just that we got over it earlier than some places.

Oh, I know you weren’t. I didn’t think that.

But I would argue with the idea of the Bay Area having gotten over it earlier. Berkeley Hills vs Flatlands, Bayview/HP, SF public schools, the “new” gentrification of the Fillmore vs the Projects there, the city still has massive, entrenched problems.

And this is the most liberal city in the werrrelled!! /

9 calochortus  Mon, Jan 23, 2012 9:08:21am

re: #8 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I’m not doing a good job of making myself clear-yes, there is still racism. There is a very messy mix of race, culture and economic class, even here, My kids went to a very multiracial school but there wasn’t a lot of mixing. A lot of it can be chalked up to geography (your best friend doesn’t usually live 10 miles away from you) and then there’s the college prep vs. not college prep (partly economic, partly cultural, partly “expectations”) I could go on about the PTO trying to involve the ‘minority’ parents, which never yielded much in the way of results (culture? exhaustion? lack of babysitters? bitter experience of being “window dressing” without much input? I don’t know. They didn’t come and tell us.)
With all the problems we have, I think it is better than legally approved segregation. We are making progress. I believe we will do better. We have after all gone from the Chinese Exclusion Act to Asians being just part of the landscape.


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