The Greatest Threat to Israel’s Survival: Not the Palestinians, Not Iran, It’s…
One of the givens within Israel is that it is and must be a Jewish state. This “Jewishness” is defined by the fact that the majority of its citizens are members of the Jewish people, and that Jewish tradition, culture, values, and even in some cases, law, are at times integrated into the state’s public space and political and legal structures. So long as the rights of minorities are protected and freedom of religion is preserved, these principles can coincide with Israel’s other defining aspiration - to be a democratic state.
The recent events within the ultra-Orthodox community, coupled with doomsday predictions of their rapid demographic growth, have caused many to question whether Israel’s Jewish and democratic synthesis is being threatened. How is it that a small segment of society can threaten to undermine the country’s identity and cause many Israelis and Jews worldwide to believe their country is being stolen from them?
The second defining foundation of haredi influence results from there being treated almost as if they were a separate ethnic minority within. Zionism wanted to create a “new Jew” and a new Judaism, and the haredim had no part in this. Haredim were allowed and even encouraged to create their own ghettoes under the hope that one day they would disappear.
A system of allowances was put into place to allow them to preserve their distinct identity, so long as “they” left “us” alone. Lip service was and is still offered advocating for full military service and integration into the job market on the part of the haredim. But the truth is non-Orthodox Israelis neither want haredim in their workplace nor in integrated military units.
The funny thing is that up until about 5 years ago all the “demographic experts” were predicting that the Haredi population was in decline, slowly becoming extinct, yada yada. For supposed “experts” they were obviously not familiar with the exponential growth function, which is pretty much a straight line until it approaches the asymptote and then BOOM!
Also, read some of these very scary comments in the “Talkback” section:
They have never existed comfortably anywhere in the world and never will because no society around them will accept their claim to being “chosen.” This history teaches us that there is no solution to the problem of Haredim. The best Israel can do within its democracy principles is to isolate them and accept those Haredim who abandon their old way of living.
Michael , California, USA (02.02.12)
They WILL take over eventually if they are not removed. It is only self-defense to remove them from high official posts and government. Do it before it is too late or you will lose your country and your freedom to them. You are fools to try for ”understanding” them . They don’t want to understand you. They want to rule you like cattle
Changes to the UK welfare system are about to have a serious adverse impact on Haredim living in London. Benefits are being changed to drastically cut amounts received by large families. I read an article recently saying Haredim communities are being broken up as large families are forced by benefit cuts to look foir cheaper housing outside their ttraditional neighbourhood. In typical British press style the article portrayed the situation as a grave injustice to the poor persecuted haredim. Fools!
You can have eventual Haredim rule over seculars or assimilation. If seculars act now and force haredim to assimilate into the culture around them there is still hope. If you look at successful harmonious colonial societies they have all involved intermarriage between colonialists and natives. If the haredim are allowed to segregate themselves from everyone else then there is no hope. They will outbreed and outwit the seculars and eventually rule them as a second-class group of citizens.
they are a closed group with two different moral codes…honest when dealing with each but not so honest when dealing with outsiders like seculars .Israel cannot survive with a small group which regards outsiders as enemies to be exploited If its not their religion which makes them like this maybe its in their DNA. Someone needs to stand up and tell the plain thruth about them, Enough is enough.
Let them live in their ghettos without allowing new exclusive territories to them. Take away most of the unique welfare and family support. Absorb when some of them decide to de-haredi themselves (hozrim b’sheela). In other words, treat them the same way secular population is treated. They can pray INSIDE their homes and synagogues as much as they want, but not when secular population is disturbed by their presence.