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1 dragonfire1981  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:05:29am

Interesting excerpt from the article:

During her first day, an older worker advised her to leave Foxconn but Chen stayed on as she waited to return to school. The first three weeks consisted of her affixing more than 4,000 stickers onto iPad screens by hand, forcing her to work 60 hours each week on an assembly line.
"It's so boring, I can't bear it anymore," she told CNN. "Everyday is like: I get off from work and I go to bed. I get up in the morning, and I go to work. It is my daily routine and I almost feel like an animal."

Apple CEO Tim Cook also recently stressed his company’s efforts to monitor the situation. In a letter to employees, Cook explained how Apple tries to inspect the factories, audit how the workers are treated, and educate the employees about their rights.

And some experts believe Foxconn’s conditions are actually better than those found in other factories in China, according to CNN.

I want to say I remember watching a documentary or reading an article awhile back discussing how the management at these factories will "Stage" them for inspections when bigwigs from the American companies come to visit in order to make things look more humane and reasonable than they actually are.

2 nines09  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:09:03am

Imagine this outside your door. Number one reason jobs are in China. No oversight, no regulations, no rules. Who in a million years would imagine that naked capitalism would find it's best friend in Communist China?

3 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:11:24am

re: #2 nines09

Imagine this outside your door. Number one reason jobs are in China. No oversight, no regulations, no rules. Who in a million years would imagine that naked capitalism would find it's best friend in Communist China?

You might be shocked to know much Pittsburgh was like that when I was a child.

4 shutdown  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:31:44am

Your points are valid, MichaelJ. But I have, deep inside, this nagging feeling that you pursue an actively pro-Apple agenda on these pages. I have expressed unease with this previously. I would be much more willing to accept information from you if it were preceded by ful disclosure about the extent of your involvement with Apple. Are you an Apple employee? Are you a financial analyst who follows Apple? Do you work for an agency or company under contract to Apple?

5 MichaelJ  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 12:22:46pm

re: #4 imp_62

Full disclosure - No, no and no. I like Apple because I happen to think that they make great products. Pretty simple, actually. I'd love to know why posting about an Apple news item bothers you so much. If I were using your paintbrush, I would say that you are actively anti-Apple because you don't like the fact that I point out stories about the company.

Do you think that the media is giving us an unbiased look at factory conditions in China? Foxconn is not owned by Apple, nor is it even close to exclusively producing products for Apple, yet these reports are all taking Apple to task for China's nation-wide way of treating factory workers. Do you see any other company's name in any of these headlines? No. I find this type of reporting very irritating and disingenuous.

6 shutdown  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 12:33:41pm

It really does not bother me at all, I just get the overall impression that your affection for Apple sometimes goes beyond the love of a consumer for stuff made by a huge international conglomerate. I agree that the media love an underdog and go after favourites with an unfortunate level of zeal, much to the detriment of objective reporting. My request for disclosure was not meant as an insult. I like to try to understand the motives of others, a difficult proposition on an internet forum. Thank you for the information, disclosure and the measured response. On the whole, I appreciate and enjoy the news and discussions you post. If everybody here agreed with everybody else on everything posted, where would we be?

7 MichaelJ  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 12:48:20pm

re: #6 imp_62

I'm fine with disagreements. And, I agree with your points about understanding where people are coming from on the internet. Not always easy. Thanks for your clarification.

8 nines09  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 12:50:15pm

re: #3 Decatur Deb

You might be shocked to know much Pittsburgh was like that when I was a child.

Not at all. I had family there and in Bethlehem Pa.
I'm old enough to remember every bit of it. Remember that signature line from Steeler telecasts; "Pittszzzburggg Steeelers? Done with a talk box that a lot of steelworkers needed after losing their larynx. I know what the Delaware river looked and smelled like and the old Shackamaxon Warehouse area down by the docks in Philly along with Tacony and the black roads in the coal region. Centralia still burns.

9 MichaelJ  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 12:57:57pm

re: #2 nines09

No oversight, no regulations, no rules.

Sounds like what the Republicans are trying to do to our country.

10 nines09  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:08:01pm

re: #9 MichaelJ

Sounds like what the Republicans are trying to do to our country.

When they talk about regulations "choking business" they mean clean air and water regulations. They are doing their best to undo every law preventing business and industry from doing what ever it pleases. Right now in the natural gas industry you can see the money pouring in to change laws and hand oversight to the industries themselves. Just look at what BP got away with. We've been there before and they want to go back. With lower wages to boot.

11 MichaelJ  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:19:04pm

re: #10 nines09

Agreed. They seem to think why worry about the environment? After all, the Rapture is coming...

12 Locker  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:14:03pm

re: #3 Decatur Deb

You might be shocked to know much Pittsburgh was like that when I was a child.

Yea but at least we had Kennywood, the Mt Washington Incline and the Good Ship Lollipop. Who needs clean air? Seriously though it's a whole lot different in Pittsburgh now that it's a tech city vs a steel city.

13 Decatur Deb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:18:28pm

re: #12 Locker

Yea but at least we had Kennywood, the Mt Washington Incline and the Good Ship Lollipop. Who needs clean air? Seriously though it's a whole lot different in Pittsburgh now that it's a tech city vs a steel city.

Yeh--Visited my sister a couple years ago. Her big environmental complaint is that beaver in the Allegany near the old slaughterhouse are damaging her birches. (Much of old Kennywood is still there, consciously preserved in the core of the steel-coaster park.)

14 Locker  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:24:12pm

re: #13 Decatur Deb

Yeh--Visited my sister a couple years ago. Her big environmental complaint is that beaver in the Allegany near the old slaughterhouse are damaging her birches. (Much of old Kennywood is still there, consciously preserved in the core of the steel-coaster park.)

Laugh well if beavers are the worst of her problems then it's completely turned around. We grew up going to Kennywood every summer when we visited my grand parents. Love that place so much. The Thunderbolt, Racer, Fascination, funnel cakes, Noah's Ark and the Monongahela Monster.

This summer my brother, sister and I are meeting up in Pittsburgh to take all the nieces and nephews for the first time. Can't wait and Pittsburgh is definitely proof that even the worse environments can experience tremendous improvement with deliberate effort.

15 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 6:58:01pm

re: #2 Repeatedly Dropped On My Head As A Child

Imagine this outside your door. Number one reason jobs are in China. No oversight, no regulations, no rules. Who in a million years would imagine that naked capitalism would find it's best friend in Communist China?

I would. Capitalism doesn't care much for democracy. Now that China has dropped its Marxist/Maoist hatred of capitalism, it's the perfect place for it.


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