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1 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:05:39am

Because Christians never do stupid things. Ever.


2 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 10:49:23am
I mean, if it’s survival of the fittest and let’s get rid of the weakest members of our society, it makes absolutely logical sense if you believe in Darwinianism, this is how all of life develops, this is how we get increasingly complex lifeforms.


It’s a deceitful argument that purposefully misrepresents Darwin.

3 HappyWarrior  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 11:11:42am

Or we could bring up Luther’s influence on the Nazis Bryan and blame Christianity for the Holocaust. But that would be being a dishonest dipshit like you so I won’t blame Christianity for the Holocaust. Seriously, what’s wrong with this clown? First he tries to justify discrimination against gays by saying that the Nazis had gay members and now he links evolutionary theory to the Holocaust. And Republican candidates pander to this fuckwad, why? He makes Robertson look almost reasonable.

4 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 12:20:38pm

Humans evolved.
Humans perpetrated the Holocaust.
The link is obvious people.

5 JEA62  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 12:48:32pm

When exactly did we start eliminating undesirable people, again…?

Should I advise my brother to put my nephew with Downs in hiding?

6 nines09  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 12:55:09pm

I can draw a straight line from vile bogot right to Fischer.

7 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:38:31pm

Years ago I read a book, “Thy Brother’s Blood” by Malcolm Hay, which claims a direct connection between Christianity and the Holocaust.

8 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 1:42:38pm

re: #7 Alouette

Years ago I read a book, “Thy Brother’s Blood” by Malcolm Hay, which claims a direct connection between Christianity and the Holocaust.

Or, more generally, theism. Gott mit uns, all that stuff. Fischer, you fucking Nazi. (half-/ on that last one)

9 aagcobb  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:25:43pm

Who was it advocating that the unfit should be allowed to die if they are poor? Oh, right, that was Fischer.

10 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 2:32:34pm

re: #9 aagcobb

Who was it advocating that the unfit should be allowed to die if they are poor? Oh, right, that was Fischer.

11 Etaoin Shrdlu  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 3:41:33pm

I’m not 100% sure, but I think this might predate Darwin:

“And how can marriages be made most beneficial? — that is a question which I put to you, because I see in your house dogs for hunting, and of the nobler sort of birds not a few. Now, I beseech you, do tell me, have you ever attended to their pairing and breeding?”

“In what particulars?”

“Why, in the first place, although they are all of a good sort, are not some better than others?”


“And do you breed from them all indifferently, or do you take care to breed from the best only?”

“From the best.”

“And do you take the oldest or the youngest, or only those of ripe age?”

“I choose only those of ripe age.”

“And if care was not taken in the breeding, your dogs and birds would greatly deteriorate?”


“And the same of horses and animals in general?”


“Good heavens! my dear friend, I said, what consummate skill will our rulers need if the same principle holds of the human species! [….] Why, I said, the principle has been already laid down that the best of either sex should be united with the best as often, and the inferior with the inferior, as seldom as possible; and that they should rear the offspring of the one sort of union, but not of the other, if the flock is to be maintained in first-rate condition.”

          — Plato, The Republic, Book V

12 Tiny alien kittens are watching you  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 5:14:39pm
When we start compromising on the Bible in one part, like with the ideas of evolution, it’s just another step to compromising on other parts, like the sanctity of life.

Sure, just like when the church had to (mostly) abandon the idea of the flat Earth they had claimed to be irrevocably true because it was “in the bible.”

Just like they had to (mostly) abandon the idea that the sun revolved about the Earth because that too was “in the bible.”

Both times people died simply over “The Faithful’s” resistance to hearing the truth, if the offenders weren’t killed they were ostracized, placed under arrest, spent years in brutal captivity that often included torture. And for what? For what?

To deny change, to deny reality, to accept the interpretations of two thousand year old writings by a select few “holy” men as the INFALLIBLE HOLY WORD OF GOD and then reject all factual evidence to the contrary as offenses against the Church and even worse against God?

Arrgghhh, these “evangelical” zealots make me want to tear my few remaining hairs out! Read the damn gospels!

(who am I kidding, no one listens to Jesus, they only listen to Paul :( )

13 Sinistershade  Tue, Feb 7, 2012 8:43:12pm

Even if you accept the idea that there is a “straight line” from Darwinian Evolution to Social Darwinism, that has absolutely no bearing on the scientific validity of Darwinian Evolution. Disliking the implications does nothing to reduce the scientific evidence.

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