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1 researchok  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 10:43:52am

This is going to backfire badly for the GOP.

Obama has made clear access to birth control can be addressed without compromising institutional religious tenets.

Abortion is also an elective procedure. Accommodation can be made for procedures to be had outside the institution (in the same way contraceptives will be readily available) and no one has even remotely suggested physicians who do not wish to perform the procedure should be mandated to.

Lastly, the evangelicals need to be careful. The vast majority of the faith community have no issue with contraceptives.

The nation has been well served by religious based hospitals and clinics. They have served their local communities without litmus test for decades. The trend lately to politicize (and make no mistake, that it is what it is) health care can only hurt those communities these institutions wish to help.

2 blueraven  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:26:02am

Rove is not the only one; Mike Huckabee, Michelle Malkin, Limbaugh, Hannity...pick any right wing radio host/blogger dujour.

This is a concerted effort to push wedge issues to the forefront now that the economy seems to be improving. It will backfire, but it is the only thing they have to fire up the base and try to muddy the waters.

3 calochortus  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 11:45:49am

People who believe life begins "at the moment of conception" (and I won't go into what is wrong with the ideas of life beginning or a "moment of conception") tend to believe that preventing implantation is the equivalent of abortion despite the fact that there can't be an abortion until there is a pregnancy and there isn't a pregnancy until implantation.

4 terraincognita  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 5:20:06pm

As a non-practicing Catholic, I for the life of me cannot understand the Church's attitude toward true contra-conceptional methods. On the other hand, abortion is a can of worms not only in the theocratic sense but also the philosophical.

5 Achilles Tang  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 5:50:36pm

re: #4 terraincognita

As a non-practicing Catholic, I for the life of me cannot understand the Church's attitude toward true contra-conceptional methods.

Simple. The more Catholics, the stronger the church and more women barefoot pregnant and in the kitchen. Many Muslim have that figured out too.

6 CuriousLurker  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 6:09:06pm

re: #5 Red Sea Desjardini Tang

Simple. The more Catholics, the stronger the church and more women barefoot pregnant and in the kitchen. Many Muslim have that figured out too.

Yes, but contraception isn't forbidden to Muslims, nor is (first trimester) abortion.

I have to wonder if the people conflating contraception with abortion have given a thought to the fact that, if they were able to make contraception illegal, Islam would also become much stronger as there would be a Muslim population explosion as well. They might want to rethink where that might lead. //

7 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Feb 11, 2012 6:36:44pm

It's almost as if they don't know they are only talking to 27% of the population. I mean are they really dumb enough to make this an issue in an election year? They will lose the votes of women by 20 points and most men under the age of 40.


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