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1 researchok  Wed, Feb 22, 2012 8:10:03am

• Replace GDP as a measure of wealth with metrics for natural, built, human and social capital – and how they intersect.

• Eliminate subsidies in sectors such as energy, transport and agriculture that create environmental and social costs, which currently go unpaid.

• Tackle overconsumption in the rich world, and address population pressure by empowering women, improving education and making contraception accessible to all.

• Transform decision-making processes to empower marginalised groups, and integrate economic, social and environmental policies instead of having them compete.

• Conserve and value biodiversity and ecosystem services, and create markets for them that can form the basis of green economies.

• Invest in knowledge through research and training.

"The current system is broken," said Watson. "It is driving humanity to a future that is 3-5C warmer than our species has ever known, and is eliminating the ecology that we depend on for our health, wealth and senses of self."

Interesting ideas- but they will never happen, at least not in this lifetime.

2 Obdicut  Wed, Feb 22, 2012 9:19:11am

re: #1 researchok

Well, say goodbye to human civilization, then.

3 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Feb 22, 2012 9:33:46am

re: #2 Obdicut
Yes for a spell.
Boom and bust is natures way. We are due for a major cull. Self inflicted or not, it's coming. Permanent growth was quite possible if we had truly pushed to the high frontier before we befouled our air and oceans. But we set ourselves back too far too many times.

I happen to think civilization will come back, and faster than the dark ages. Lower population and high tech is the bright future. There is no bright future for an 8 or 12 billion population.

4 Bob Dillon  Wed, Feb 22, 2012 10:02:57am

re: #2 Obdicut
re: #3 Daniel Ballard

Well, say goodbye to human civilization, then.

"I'll be back."

"Lower population and high tech is the bright future. "

5 Randall Gross  Wed, Feb 22, 2012 11:31:48am

Erlich has a history of painting wildly worst case scenarios and never accounting for advances in tech (e.g. the Green revolution totally overthrew most of his scenarios, the tech boom overthrew the others in 'The Population Bomb'.

I am always wary of doomcriers, no matter which camp or point of compass they originate from.

6 Flavia  Wed, Feb 22, 2012 3:59:05pm

re: #5 Randall Gross

Erlich has a history of painting wildly worst case scenarios and never accounting for advances in tech (e.g. the Green revolution totally overthrew most of his scenarios, the tech boom overthrew the others in 'The Population Bomb'.

I am always wary of doomcriers, no matter which camp or point of compass they originate from.

Thanks - I needed this :-)


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