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1 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 1:42:02pm

They are lucky to have you Dragon fire. You would be a credit to any religion.
I completely agree with the assessment above about their tolerance meter if it was Muslim prayers before a game. This is just another one of those Christian dominionist ploys from the religious right to further their Christian cause. They do not want religious liberty. They want fundamental evangelical Christian supremacy.
I wonder what would happen if during prayer before class a child brought out a Santeria drum and began chanting what the teachers and students would do? How about a student saying prayers of Satanic scripture before a game?

2 909Ghazis  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 2:11:06pm

It's the old "What's wrong with a little prayer?" speech. Okay. I'll bite. Next up at the season opening baseball game at (pick a high school, any old high school) I propose a passage from the Koran be broadcast from the PA system. I'll let the speaker deliver and pick it. Wait we have a Buddhist who wants to speak also, and now a Hindu with an important message for his team.....A Shinto student just said he has the perfect passage for the warriors on the field, and at the 7th inning stretch we will all bow our heads as a Druid asks forgiveness of the field for the damage done to it.

3 calochortus  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 3:08:14pm

Matthew 6 deals with the issue of public prayer.

6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

I don't believe prayer is banned anywhere, making it a public display of it may be.

4 JEA62  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 6:48:59pm

Can't wait to see somebody request a Hindu or Muslim prayer.

5 EiMitch  Sat, Mar 3, 2012 10:23:21pm

re: #3 calochortus

Its legal for anyone to pray in school. Requiring people to pray is illegal. As the far as the constitution is concerned, the state must regard religion as a private, personal matter. Applied to public schools, that means people can pray in private on their own time. But prayer can't be an official part of school activity.

The religious right knows this. They understand the difference between being allowed to pray, and being required to pray. They only pretend they don't know better because thats how they rationalize that cramming their beliefs down everyone else's throats is an expression of their "freedom."

And of course, the part about cramming their beliefs down our throats is the ultimate purpose of their f***ing culture wars. Rest assured that any other motives they claim are nothing but spin.


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