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1 Political Atheist  Mon, Mar 5, 2012 2:34:52pm

Well it’s about time we saw the second get some attention since the DC ruling. California has “good cause & good character” as the standard for CCW.

2 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Mar 5, 2012 3:24:12pm

You don’t have to have a reason to exercise any of the rights in the Bill of Rights. “I’m an American and I feel like it,” is good enough.

3 Bob Dillon  Mon, Mar 5, 2012 3:39:56pm

re: #2 To hold my temper, most of the time.

Try it in CA and you would become a guest of the state so fast your head would not have time to spin.

4 ಠ_ಠ  Mon, Mar 5, 2012 4:02:39pm

I’m a leftist-commie-liberal-faggot and I support this decision.

5 cinesimon  Mon, Mar 5, 2012 4:03:13pm

“We’re not against the idea of a permit process…”
YES they are.
They totally are.
These NRA(that is, gun manufacturer)-funded nuts at other levels of government, in other states - state-by-state - are working to ensure people with severe mental health issues, people with ‘terroristic threats’ records, basically anyone who feels like it, can have a gun - without the 24 hour waiting period, without a background check, and of course, no limits as to how many can be bought. All this is being pushed wherever they find an opening.
They use lies, laughably bad science, and studied that bear no relevance to push their case.
And those of us who respect the 2nd amendment but also understand that there must be some limits, find ourselves without representation.
It’s well proven that strict gun laws do, in fact, reduce death. Look at any country(no, not the Nazis, conspiracy theorists - MODERN countries such as the UK) which has tightened gun laws.
I’m not suggesting America follow suit, as that ship has sailed. I’m merely pointing out the dishonesty of the pro-gun extremists who believe ALL restrictions, including ANY permit process, is anti-American to the point of Stalinism.
Idiots.
The fact is, people who arm themselves when they discover an intruder, are much, much more likely to be killed. That has been proven over and over. The only way gun nuts can deal with that, is to smudge the issue. Just make it so that murder is the same as a robbery.
After all: it’s all the same, right? I’m robbed at gun point, offer no resistance, live but lose whatever the perp steals.
OR, I offer resistance, and as statistics overwhelmingly show, over and over again, it’s likely I will be shot and quite possibly die.
To the NRA, those two outcomes are the same. For the sake of their ideology. Well, in the NRA’s case; for the sake of their bosses bulging bank accounts. As if they care about freedom and liberty. HUH! These guys are no better than the worst arms dealer, for goodness sake. What qualms do they have, selling weapons to Israel so Israel can sell them to dictators across the Middle East, Africa, Sth America and Asia?
People are paying the price of the NRA’s extremism - with their lives.

6 Bob Dillon  Mon, Mar 5, 2012 5:11:07pm

re: #1 Daniel Ballard

Plus you have to “know someone” to get a CCW approved.

7 EiMitch  Mon, Mar 5, 2012 7:01:04pm

re: #5 cinesimon

Honestly, I would’ve liked your post much better if you ended it at this part:

And those of us who respect the 2nd amendment but also understand that there must be some limits, find ourselves without representation.

Instead, it sounds like the same lip-service-to-the-contrary that accompanies every political screed ever. This page is about a judge striking down a “provide good reason” law. Your rant went completely off that topic.

8 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Mar 5, 2012 8:05:31pm

re: #7 EiMitch

Honestly, I would’ve liked your post much better if you ended it at this part:

Instead, it sounds like the same lip-service-to-the-contrary that accompanies every political screed ever. This page is about a judge striking down a “provide good reason” law. Your rant went completely off that topic.

Exactly. Whatever the lawyer bringing the case thinks, Judge Legg’s decision was in line with the Supreme Court’s findings in the Heller and MacDonald decisions. If the right to bear arms is a constitutional, individual right, then it cannot be subject to a “provide good cause” law.


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