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1 A Sockpuppet's Sockpuppet  Mon, Apr 16, 2012 6:11:46pm

Gah!

What seriously perverted minds these people have. The world would be a much better place without them.

2 Flavia  Mon, Apr 16, 2012 6:48:49pm

GMTA. This was pretty much what I was telling my friends - I just wasn't as eloquent as you. I tell you, the ONLY reason I wouldn't just shoot this scum is that I want his nose to be rubbed in the stupidity of his evil. Martyring him wouldn't do that.

3 Gretchen G.Tiger  Mon, Apr 16, 2012 8:45:26pm

Can I share the post on my fb?

4 freetoken  Mon, Apr 16, 2012 10:59:58pm

Prima facie this is indeed what many extreme supremacists like Brevik appear to believe. Yet I suspect that deep down the motivations are more primitive and not so elaborate - a deep fear of being not-quite-good-enough is common to many people who lash out in ugliness and anger.

5 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Apr 17, 2012 5:40:25am

re: #2 Flavia

GMTA. This was pretty much what I was telling my friends - I just wasn't as eloquent as you. I tell you, the ONLY reason I wouldn't just shoot this scum is that I want his nose to be rubbed in the stupidity of his evil. Martyring him wouldn't do that.

He'd rationalize it away. It's all about HIM.

6 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Apr 17, 2012 6:11:21am

re: #4 freetoken

Yep. They're saying that the culture they are defending is too weak to survive without violence and believe they aren't strong enough either.

7 Mickey Blumental  Tue, Apr 17, 2012 6:16:15am

You can say Brevik was "holding his ground".

8 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Tue, Apr 17, 2012 10:36:52am

Please regard:

8.05am Before the court started, journalists were spoken to by the translators who said that "self-defence" was a misleading translation for the grounds for acquittal Breivik is invoking. A better translation would be "necessity", they said as the clause he's referring to is about defence of property and defence of others, not solely about defence of your own person.

08.28am While we wait for a decision, more on the clarification from the translators regarding Breivik's defence of "necessity" rather than "self-defence". In Norway section 47 of the penal code states:

Quote No person may be punished for any act that he has committed in order to save someone's person or property from an otherwise unavoidable danger when the circumstances justified him in regarding this danger as particularly significant in relation to the damage that might be caused by his act.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

9 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Apr 17, 2012 12:58:50pm

re: #3 ggt

Can I share the post on my fb?

Absolutely. :)

10 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Apr 17, 2012 1:47:08pm

BTW: Obviously Brevik took his response to these beliefs to a whole new level of paranoid hatred. Instead of attacking the immigrants themselves as White Supremacists have been previously known to do, he instead attacked those that he saw as the future generation that would support and enable the takeover of his country by non-white races.

He attacked and killed teenagers at a camp hosted by a liberal political party because he saw them as "race traitors," I'm sure the fact that they were basically isolated on an island and effectively unguarded also factored into his thinking. Why attack a current politician or two and get gunned down by the police in the process when you can attack dozens of possible future politicians at once and walk away without a scratch?

Forget the rhetoric Brevik and his supporters spew, forget the basically insane justifications that they put forward to explain his actions. The truth is that this was nothing but terrorism, ("real, really, real terrorism™") he killed teenagers and children because they might, possibly, grow up to oppose his point of view politically on immigration, he was "sending a message" to anyone else who might choose to betray the white race.


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