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1 Bob Levin  Thu, Apr 19, 2012 11:51:14am

It appears as though the secular society is storming the walls of the cult. It's normal conflict in a democratic society, combined with the psychological realism of dealing with a subculture that both practices isolation and is quite strong.

There is a way for religious Judaism to become a vital ingredient in the move towards the future, as opposed to it presently holding up the barricades of 17th century Poland.

2 Flavia  Thu, Apr 19, 2012 2:58:58pm

The weirdest thing is that the extremists are trying to preserve women's modesty, keep them from being made into sex objects. Sigh. It's good that they actually are a minority, & just getting attention disproportionate to their numbers.

3 Bob Levin  Thu, Apr 19, 2012 4:01:17pm

re: #2 Flavia

The weirdest thing is that the extremists are trying to preserve women's modesty, keep them from being made into sex objects.

This can be done without paying homage to old world European traditions, as if those are Jewish traditions.

4 Flavia  Thu, Apr 19, 2012 9:26:30pm

re: #3 Bob Levin

This can be done without paying homage to old world European traditions, as if those are Jewish traditions.

Actually, I was just talking about the destructive behavior (such as towards pictures of women).

5 Bob Levin  Thu, Apr 19, 2012 11:10:01pm

re: #4 Flavia

I understand. I'm saying that the groups who are doing this are paying half of their attention to the Torah, the other half to our lovely stay in Europe. If they paid full attention to the Torah, then those destructive events would not occur. That is to say, it's possible to be an observant Jew and completely eliminate our homage to Europe. It's not as if we don't know which groups are doing this.

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