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1 Etaoin Shrdlu  Fri, Apr 20, 2012 6:23:57pm

“My argument all along has been that the purpose of the First Amendment is to protect the free exercise of the Christian religion.” — Bryan Fischer

“Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.” — Thomas Jefferson

“All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship. It is now no more that toleration is spoken of, as if it was by the indulgence of one class of people, that another enjoyed the exercise of their inherent natural rights." — George Washington

2 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Fri, Apr 20, 2012 7:12:41pm

I think what he's referring to in the "latter part of the 19th century" is the Edmunds-Tucker act, which of course no founding father had anything to do with on account of being dead for decades.

To spare you looking it up, this is the 1887 act that dissolved the LDS church, legally.


Dissolved the LDS Church and the Perpetual Emigrating Fund Company, with assets to be used for public schools in the Territory.[1]
Required an anti-polygamy oath for prospective voters, jurors and public officials.
Annulled territorial laws allowing illegitimate children to inherit.
Required civil marriage licenses (to aid in the prosecution of polygamy).
Abrogated the common law spousal privilege for polygamists, thus requiring wives to testify against their husbands.[2]
Disfranchised women (who had been enfranchised by the Territorial legislature in 1870).
Replaced local judges (including the previously powerful Probate Court judges) with federally appointed judges.
Abolished the office of Territorial superintendent of district schools, granting the supreme court of the Territory of Utah the right to appoint a commissioner of schools. Also called for the prohibition of the use of sectarian books and for the collection of statistics of the number of so-called gentiles and Mormons attending and teaching in the schools.[3]

Also, they took all the church property and the church had to rent the buildings they had built from the government. In 1893, it was returned.

3 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Apr 20, 2012 7:22:12pm

pity the dumb cow-like humans who actually watch and believe this guy

4 calochortus  Fri, Apr 20, 2012 7:30:40pm

So the founding fathers were planning to wait until Bryan Fischer came along and explained what they really meant. After returning from the dead to harass Mormons, of course.

The amount of stupidity here is stunning.

5 nines09  Fri, Apr 20, 2012 7:56:23pm

So I guess Mr Vile isn't voting for Mitt? That other bag of nuts David Barton preaches the same drivel. I wonder sometime about the purpose behind this. It's dark to say the least. Twisted is close. Demented closer. All with lies and flawed reasoning and followers like Newt and Michele and Ricky Boy. Fascist rats.

6 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 20, 2012 8:44:43pm

This guy is such a sad jerk.

7 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Fri, Apr 20, 2012 9:47:44pm

As an Atheist i had no idea how much respect i had for all the various religions in this country until the fundamental evangelicals started trashing everyone that wasn't them!

8 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 8:28:07am

re: #4 calochortus

So the founding fathers were planning to wait until Bryan Fischer came along and explained what they really meant. After returning from the dead to harass Mormons, of course.

The amount of stupidity here is stunning.

That none of the conservative justices on the Supreme Court would even give this argument the time of day makes it even worse. Fischer is basically saying everyone is wrong but him, which puts him firmly in cult leader territory.

9 Sophia77  Sat, Apr 21, 2012 11:00:13am

Uh huh; what about Muslims and Jews? They were present in early America were they not; also, atheists and agnostics.

First Amendment protects all of us, not just "Christians."

And, yes, Mormons came along after the Constitution was created, much later; does anybody read anymore or do they just preach?

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