Owner of Right Wing Stalker Blog Publishes Smears by a Pal of Holocaust Deniers
Today the mentally unbalanced hater Rick “I stabbed many Muslims” Martinez (AKA Rodan, Daedalus, Trajan, etc., etc., etc.), the owner of the stalker website “Diary of Daedalus” (one of whose greatest feats is posting videos that praise Serbian war criminals, Pinochet and the neo-Nazi book the Turner Diaries; that is, aside from using the n-word to describe some black people) published a screed wherein he quoted and linked to several sites by my old personal stalker Carmelo Lisciotto. It’s not hard to find these sites by googling my name, since Lisciotto has been very busy both impersonating me and running several blogs, Google profiles and forums all devoted to sliming me and my friends from the anti-denier blog Holocaust Controversies. Since this subject comes up from time to time, I will address this situation in this article.
What follows is told in more detail at this link. Note that I still have all the emails quoted in that article.
Before beginning, I want to set some facts straight.
1. The Holocaust Controversies group is devoted to exploring various historical Holocaust issues, not only denial, but practically 98% of our time has been spent debunking Holocaust denial. Last year we have published a 500+ page book online, which decisively debunks deniers’ arguments about several Nazi extermination camps.
This book has been advertised on the blog of The Holocaust History Project.
2. All the information appearing in various dodgy “blogs” and “forums” sliming our blog is the result of actions of one single person on a mission. This will be explained below.
3. 99% of that information is patently untrue and mostly unsourced, and what is true is perverted to suit the purposes of libel. British historian Dr. Nicholas Terry, whom this individual slimes, is a member of The Holocaust History Project, which helped Dr. Deborah Lipstadt in her fight against David Irving. The work of another friend who is slimed by these individuals, Roberto Muehlenkamp, has been used by Dr. Lipstadt’s and the Emory University’s project The Holocaust Denial on Trial.
Meanwhile this individual has been posting under the nickname “Blogbuster” at the neo-Nazi CODOH forum, where he is extremely friendly with all the Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazis (his mission there is the same as everywhere, to libel the HC team). I’m not saying he’s a denier himself, but he sure likes their company.
You can compare the credibility of the accuser and the accused.
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Once upon a time there was a site deathcamps.org, which was devoted to information about the Holocaust, and specifically about the three death camps - Treblinka, Sobibor and Belzec. It was founded by Michael Peters (Germany), Chris Webb (UK) and Peter Laponder (South Africa). The site had an international team of members, one of whom was Carmelo Lisciotto (Chicago, IL). Lisciotto had a personal conflict with Michael Peters and was ousted from the ARC group (as the site’s team was called; ARC = Aktion Reinhard camps) in 2005. I joined the ARC group in 2006.
During my stay I was involved with several pages on the site, e.g. scanning the color German photos of Baby Yar. All was well until one day it came to my attention that Chris Webb - at that time the site “treasurer” and “secretary”, who managed the group’s finances (and various other tasks), began pushing some weird materials from a source identifying himself as “Andy Schmidt”. Other members have confirmed that this Andy has been caught passing off forgeries as authentic materials in the past. I pushed this issue, and apparently wounded Webb’s ego. One day Webb tried to simply oust me as well as my friends Dr. Nicholas Terry and Roberto Muehlenkamp. However many old members protested against this.
The problem, however, was that Webb was the registrar of the site’s domain name. Michael Peters was afraid of German neo-Nazis so he trusted Webb with the task of registering the name. Therefore Webb had the final argument of the brute force: he simply “ousted” all the members that protested against him and sided with me from the group. For all practical intents and purposes the group ceased to be. Both the original founder Michael Peters and Peter Laponder have been ousted over this situation. So were people like John Ulrich Poulsen, whose popular sub-site with an overview of German concentration camps was one of the main sources of traffic. The site has been removed at his request, but you will see a completely false explanation at the current website that it was removed by numerous requests from numerous offended visitors, though it’s a transparent lie. So the claims of me and others being “banned” from the group are really inapplicable. It was Chris Webb who went rogue.
At this moment Carmelo Lisciotto, who had a grudge at Peters and other members, became very useful. Webb called him back and Lisciotto became a webmaster and basically a tech person at deathcamps.org as well as the new venture Webb started - “H.E.A.R.T” (holocaustresearchproject.org).
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Before I continue, I want to address the issue of proof. Certainly, I gave the link above and I have all the emails intact. Nevertheless, to further minimize the “he said, she said” situation I will give some illustrative links.
Here is the ARC page as it appeared initially:
ARC
Last Update 9 July 2006
1. Who we are
The ARC team consists of private Holocaust researchers. Our task is to uncover the history of the Aktion Reinhard Camps, and to tell the world about all aspects of the extermination of Jewry in East Europe. We are constantly attempting to help the relatives of people murdered in these camps discover their relatives’ fate, and to commemorate them. This work is our long-term commitment to Holocaust history.
The website is maintained by Michael Peters (webmaster). Secretary: Chris Webb.2. History
The ARC Group was founded by three private Holocaust researchers in 2002: Peter Laponder, Michael Peters, and Chris Webb. Starting point was a Treblinka model, presented on the internet by Michael Peters.
Here’s how it appears now:
ARC
Last Update 9 July 2006
All materials contained within the ARC deathcamps.org are subject to copyright ARC. All rights reserved.
1. Who we are
The ARC team consists of private Holocaust researchers. Our task is to uncover the history of the Aktion Reinhard Camps, and to tell the world about all aspects of the extermination of Jewry in East Europe. We are constantly attempting to help the relatives of people murdered in these camps discover their relatives’ fate, and to commemorate them. This work is our long-term commitment to Holocaust history.
The website is maintained by our Webmaster in the USA and the UK. ARC Secretary & Trustee: Chris Webb.2. History
The ARC Group was founded by private Holocaust researchers in 2002, the URL and website was created and registered by Chris Webb. Starting point was a Treblinka model, presented on the internet, contributed to ARC by Michael Peters, (subsequently removed for inaccuracies).
Note the differences, even though the “last update” dates are the same. Also note that Chris Webb now likes to pretend that he created the site (“website was created and registered by Chris Webb”), however in the initial version it is Michael Peters that is listed as the webmaster (in truth, he did all the hard work putting the content online, and writing many pages, editing images for publishing, etc.). Here’s another old page showing who really created the website:
The birthplace of ARC was the Internet. Michael Peters (Germany) showed on his former homepage his model of the Treblinka death camp. Meanwhile the model is exhibited at the Beth Shalom Holocaust Centre in England. He was helped by Richard Glazar, a survivor of Treblinka, in the late 1990’s.
Michael acquired Peter Laponder’s address from Mrs. Ada Holtzmann and contacted him. Separately Peter has built another Treblinka model at the same time, even in the same scale! Because of Michael’s homepage Chris and Billy contacted him and the group increased.
Michael has carried out research into a number of German archives, and has obtained rare and important material. He is responsible for updating the website. Another vital activity is Michael’s research and contacts with the memorials at the former euthanasia sites in Germany and Austria.Peter Laponder’s (South Africa) model is displayed at the Cape Town Holocaust museum. He actually is making a new Treblinka model for Beth Shalom Centre in Nottingham / England. Peter has produced a voluminous report on the reconstructing of Treblinka as for a visual evidence of the camp as well as maps based on air photo analysis, but his work is not yet formally published. He has undertaken extensive research in order to create a detailed scaled map of Treblinka, and given a formal presentation on his findings and the work of ARC in South Africa.
Chris Webb (England) joined the group in 2000. He has a private collection of photographs and documents of the Action Reinhard staff and all three camps. He is in contact with Treblinka survivors in Israel and the well-known Belzec expert Michael Tregenza (Poland). Chris acts as the secretary of ARC, and will also answer any general enquiries.
This Orwellian rewriting of history should show that the persons who currently run the site have no credibility.
Another example. There was a time when Webb and Lisciotto wanted to erase my name from all the pages on the site. On this page you can see that I’m listed as a source at the end:
Sources:
Sergey Romanov
But this version from 2009 shows Webb as a source:
Sources:
Chris Webb
After I caught these shenanigans, the page has been reverted to the initial state. As of this writing I’m listed as a source (although this can change at any moment, of course).
So, as you see, the site has been overtaken by the people with enormous chips on their shoulders, and when you see me or my friends being maligned at deathcamps.org, don’t be surprised - unfortunately, it’s no longer a credible site.
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Now let’s continue. After I posted my revelations about the ARC demise and the forgeries on the HC blog, the new webmaster Carmelo Lisciotto was furious. He was sending me emails like this one:
dude you must be gay….
and
Hey Idiot,
Does posting peoples names on blogs like a silly little faggot from where ever the fuck you are from make you happy?
I think your daddy must have stuck his finger up your ass way too many times when you were a child.
Still have that last email. Carmelo in his rage actually CC’d it to some notable Holocaust scholars, along with other people.
Since that moment in 2006 and to this day it became Carmelo’s mission to smear me and my friends in any way possible. He registered numerous blogs under various names, he left numerous comments on these blogs pretending to be different people, but all with the same message, he registered a Yuku forum where he posts with a dozen or so of sockpuppets, he registered at the neo-Nazi CODOH forum where his posts links to his blogs as “Blogbuster” (he is very friendly with Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazis there). His style and modus operandi are the same throughout - post a link to some blog post of his and say something sleazy about me, or Nick, or Roberto, or any other person who might have said a kind word about the HC team. It’s so primitive and monotone that it’s very easy to catch.
You may ask: what makes such a person tick? Why is he so obsessed? The truth, as it turns out, is that Carmelo Lisciotto has been an internet troll for a very long time. He’s been trolling the Usenet for years (as “Carmlo” and under other nicknames) and has been quite notorious. Here’s one person describing his behavior in 1998:
Just a word about this particular scourge of the internet. The trash-talking
wannabee leather boy messiah from Chicago, Carmelo Lisciotto, delights in his
all-caps diatribes, and ESPECIALLY (how’dyou like my Carm imitation) if people
waste time either replying to him or discussing him at length.This pathetic little troll, more than most, thrives on reaction. A history of
over a year of watery ejaculations of this kind on alt.pagan and
alt.religion.wicca supports this view, though you must, of course, form your
own opinion in this regard.
Here’s another from 1997:
Don’t worry about Cornholio (as I like to call him), and most of all do
not reply to him. Carmelo Lisciotto is a man who lives in the suburbs of
Chicago, Illinois. He posts on this group as a Christian preacher—-but did you
know that he posts to Christian groups as a satanist? We all wondered why until
someone found him posting on a BDSM group advertising for someone to humiliate
him. Seems he gets sexual thrills from being flamed—-he whacks off to the
flames (Eww). This is why flaming only encourages him. If you see his
posts——-DO NOT RESPOND and update das Killfile.
One example of his neverending obsession is this twitter feed, which shows his stalkerish nature very well. No person with even a drop of reason can take this seriously.
After everything that has been said above it’s not necessary to deal at length with the content of various accusations on these “blogs”, which consist of mostly source-free insults and insinuations. Sometimes he even forges a thing or two. E.g. once he posted a letter purportedly from me, addressed from New York (he claims I live there). Charles can confirm from my IP that I write from Russia.
He usually makes some quite outrageous claims: that we’ve been attacking Holocaust survivors (e.g. Wolf Murmelstein, who is actually my Facebook friend and with whom we had only amicable email exchanges), that we’re a boon to Holocaust deniers (even though our work effectively debunks denial, while Carmelo pals around with the neo-Nazis at CODOH), that we’ve been “attacking Holocaust memorial sites” - which is only true to the extent that we’ve been exposing Webb and Lisciotto’s dirty tactics, so they’re using their sites as a shield against criticism. He stoops even as low as accusing the deathcamps.org founder Michael Peters of pedophilia (it’s googlable, but I won’t give the link…)!
One particular argument Lisciotto has been employing lately is that “Andy Schmidt” has been me and deathcamps.org founder Peters all along, which is a pretty ironical thing to say, given how strenuously Chris Webb has been defending his source. Unfortunately for Lisciotto, Webb gave up the game back in 2007. He wrote in a complaint to the provider that hosted an untainted mirror version of the site:
I attach the catalogue record from the Wiener Library in London, of a book i produced from the ARC website, deathcamps.org and material culled from my own privatearchive collected over the past 35 years.
If you type in the online search on the Wiener Library online catalogue, you will see the book i produced on Treblinka, and you will note the link to deathcamps.org
I hope that this provides the sort of proof you are looking for.
Indeed, if we go to the Wiener Library site and type “Webb” in the search field, we get these results:
5 Belzec death camp
Chris Webb 1954, Andy Schmidt
2006
57097
6 Sobibor death camp
Chris Webb 1954, Andy Schmidt
2006
57805
7 Treblinka death camp
Chris Webb 1954, Andy Schmidt
2005
56981
I.e. Webb “published a book” (actually, printed out the stolen work of many ARC members) together with the same “Andy Schmidt” who supplied him with forgeries, and who Lisciotto now claims to be me/Peters!
I rest my case.
PS: you can find further information about the ARC/HEART/HC feud at the HC blog, tag H.E.A.R.T.