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1 blueraven  Tue, May 1, 2012 4:10:31pm

I dont like him much either, but WTF?
I have never thought of him as a racist.

2 dragonfire1981  Tue, May 1, 2012 4:35:49pm

Romney's reply should have been: "I'm not a racist, I just play one on TV."

3 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 1, 2012 5:04:08pm

re: #1 blueraven

I dont like him much either, but WTF?
I have never thought of him as a racist.

That's because he isn't. He's never engaged in racist action as far as is known.

4 wrenchwench  Tue, May 1, 2012 5:08:08pm

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

That's because he isn't. He's never engaged in racist action as far as is known.

He could avoid the appearance of being a racist by disavowing Kris Kobach instead of keeping him on as an adviser.

5 HappyWarrior  Tue, May 1, 2012 7:06:31pm

re: #4 wrenchwench

He could avoid the appearance of being a racist by disavowing Kris Kobach instead of keeping him on as an adviser.

This. I wouldn't have shouted it at him for what it's worth but I would love to know why Mitt employs Kobach and was a huge contributor to his campaign. He may not be a racist but I think Romney's definitely a nativist given his stances on immigration.

6 (I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was)  Wed, May 2, 2012 2:27:18am

re: #5 HappyWarrior

A lot of people assume that racism is a matter of the heart, and once you have made that assumption you have conceded the point of whether a person is or is not racist because how can anyone truly know the content of another person's heart?

And another assumption is that racism only really ever shows itself in symbols. Swastikas, the "n-word", white hoods, burning crosses, etc…

No, what counts is behavior and whether it affects people of a certain racial/ethnic background in a discriminatory and negative way. It's not so much important for the people discriminated against whether the people informing the policies causing the discrimination do it out of hateful conviction or opportunistic calculation. It is also not important to them whether the discrimination happens under the Confederate flag or a variety of corporate logos.

Wrenchwench is very on target to question Romney's choice of aides and advisors.

7 HappyWarrior  Wed, May 2, 2012 8:11:06am

re: #6 Unlike Some People

A lot of people assume that racism is a matter of the heart, and once you have made that assumption you have conceded the point of whether a person is or is not racist because how can anyone truly know the content of another person's heart?

And another assumption is that racism only really ever shows itself in symbols. Swastikas, the "n-word", white hoods, burning crosses, etc…

No, what counts is behavior and whether it affects people of a certain racial/ethnic background in a discriminatory and negative way. It's not so much important for the people discriminated against whether the people informing the policies causing the discrimination do it out of hateful conviction or opportunistic calculation. It is also not important to them whether the discrimination happens under the Confederate flag or a variety of corporate logos.

Wrenchwench is very on target to question Romney's choice of aides and advisors.

Oh, I agree. I just see Romney as being someone who panders to bigotry more than actual bigot. Which frankly is worse.


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