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1 researchok  Wed, May 9, 2012 7:50:30am
Why Do People Choose Political Loyalties Over Facts?

Tribal affiliation and loyalty- and precisely because you don’t have to think for yourself.

That way, it is never your fault.

Sadly, there are very few independents out there. That ought not come as a real surprise. We live in a culture that assigns status to those who wear pants with someone else’s name on their ass.

2 Political Atheist  Wed, May 9, 2012 7:57:40am

re: #1 researchok

. We live in a culture that assigns status to those who wear pants with someone else’s name on their ass.

Oh man… LOL.

3 researchok  Wed, May 9, 2012 8:17:35am

Seriously- we celebrate conformity and popularity, not originality.

This is a big discussion.

4 Political Atheist  Wed, May 9, 2012 8:29:36am

re: #3 researchok

You make an excellent point, in a way that cracked me up. And yes, this should get much wider attention. It may not though this makes party members uncomfortable. This level of self examination is uncommon because it’s upsetting.

5 researchok  Wed, May 9, 2012 9:18:30am

re: #4 Daniel Ballard

Think of it this way: Consider all the time and energy that is devoted to promoting party line self serving policy and discipline.

Imagine if you could take all that energy and focus it on actually dealing with and solving problems- and have political parties respond to that as opposed to fake and contrived ideologies.

We can always dream.

6 Romantic Heretic  Wed, May 9, 2012 9:25:55am

re: #1 researchok

Tribal affiliation and loyalty- and precisely because you don’t have to think for yourself.

That way, it is never your fault.

Now reminded of this book I enjoy reading: Escape From Freedom.

7 researchok  Wed, May 9, 2012 9:39:11am

re: #4 Daniel Ballard

One more thing- your remarks

…It may not though this makes party members uncomfortable. This level of self examination is uncommon because it’s upsetting.

That reality is built into political realities (there is a reason do many psychologists are paid large sums by political entities and campaigns).

Under normal circumstances, when you come to an ‘AHA!’ moment, you are excited and grateful. You are no longer wedded to wrong or false ideas. You have elevated yourself.

When you come to an AHA!’ political moment, you become resentful- because you have to admit everything you believed was wrong or false- and you risk becoming alienated from the ‘tribe’ and shameful excoriation from the orthodoxy.

To be clear- you can be original and independent on either side of the spectrum, but that is a rare thing because independents and original thinkers are more alike than they are at odds, usually differing not so much on goals but in how we get there.

This is anathema to the extremes on either side. If we are more alike and share the same values, they are of lesser importance and thus of lesser influence. In addition, their ability to raise money is highly impacted.

Money in politics isn’t only about campaigns- it is also about groups who adopt a cause and raise money off that cause. If we are more alike than different, there are a lot of people who need to earn a real living.

Think about this:

We don’t care if your are a Christian, Jewish, Muslim or Hindu. You are free to worship as you believe. You are free not to worship or believe. We don’t care. In fact, that is the last thing we worry about. America and free nations have long ago dispensed with the notion that what you believe how you believe, is relevant to peaceful existence. Notwithstanding the religious voices or anti religious voices from the pulpits and the media, America has learned to live and let live.

We don’t care who you vote for, really. None of our business. We want you to be a good neighbor and an honest business person. We want to know that you’ll make sure to keep a watchful eye on your kids and ours, in the neighborhood we live in. We don’t really care how you dress (any more than you care how we dress) and we don’t care what language you speak in your home. We don’t care which newspapers you read or which TV news broadcast you watch. In fact, you are free to change the channel.

Let’s repeat that- you are free to change the channel, read another newspaper or listen to another radio channel.

If you don’t like offensive cartoons (and we don’t blame you!), you are free not to buy that paper or cancel your subscription. You are free to boycott advertisers and write scathing letters to the editor.

You are not free to react violently or to threaten those you disagree with. Western democracies are just that- free societies and we do not operate under the ‘laws of the jungle.’ If we did, we would not take kindly to even the first display of offensive behavior. Your dissent is a right. But it is also a privilege, contained in the same way a painting is contained in a frame. You are free to paint the canvas as you please- as long as you stay within the borders of what is deemed acceptable behavior- that is, behavior that is non violent or destructive.

Just as clearly, we are free to ignore your protests or disagree with your expressions. That is our right- to ignore you- and there is nothing you can do to change that. Your protests are not a mandate of recognition or credibility.

Unfortunately, we live in age where in many ways, the free marketplace of ideas has become a blood sport arena.

8 docproto48  Wed, May 9, 2012 9:58:02am

re: #3 researchok

Seriously- we celebrate conformity and popularity, not originality.

This is a big discussion.

It also seems to be cool to be ignorant (ignert)

9 researchok  Wed, May 9, 2012 11:15:21am

re: #8 docproto48

Yup.

I’ts a lifestyle.
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