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1 EiMitch  Mon, May 14, 2012 3:09:37pm

In other words, this election will primarily be about negative ads preaching to their respective choirs about “the other guy’s” evil past. Sounds like money well spent. Thank you so much SCOTUS for the Citizens United ruling. We are truly a better nation for it. What would we have done without our Super PACs?

Just in case: /sarc

2 Romantic Heretic  Mon, May 14, 2012 3:59:49pm

I never thought I’d see the day where I considered David Frum a sober and interesting commentator rather than a supercilious weasel.

3 cinesimon  Mon, May 14, 2012 4:43:34pm

Frum may pretend to be a sensible person, and he has convinced quite a few people - indeed, he’s a Bush republican, which in today’s world means he’s virtually a RINO. But he is a classic Bush republican.
If you really read his work, he’s just like all the rest: false equivalence is something he uses on a massive scale.

Just look at the intro for the above story:
“Barack Obama is foreign.
Oh yeah? Mitt Romney is a bully.”

So, a massive conspiracy industry against Obama based on racism and overt dishonesty, to Frum is the equivalent of a relatively small story, that is accurate, from Romney’s youth? A story which is relevant given Romney’s contemporary politics - his right wing stances about homosexuality, about women, about bullying?

Frum may seem like he’s being reasonable. But really, he’s a typical republican that we used to face. Not as crass, not as hateful, but just as backward in all the ways that count - and certainly, just as dishonest.

4 cinesimon  Mon, May 14, 2012 4:46:48pm

re: #1 EiMitch

Yep, it’s going to be a harsh election. From what I’ve been reading, the Romney campaign is going to do what McCain refused to: use race, use religion, use conspiracy theories - and most importantly, provoke peoples’ baser, most ugly instincts and prejudices.
And yes, Obama will also be going negative.
I’m pretty sure, anyway. He rather needs to, given the onslaught from the right.

The difference, of course, will be honesty.

5 EiMitch  Mon, May 14, 2012 6:32:44pm

re: #3 cinesimon

Yeah, I get that. But I think Frum is right about how personal attacks are going to trump any discussion of the economy or any other practical policy issues. Thus the decay of politics continues without any real challenge.

6 cinesimon  Mon, May 14, 2012 8:33:18pm

Indeed, Mitch.
But ain’t it funny how so-called ‘centrists’ like Sully think that such really, really obvious commentary - something that someone whose studied politics for 1 month would know - is seen as a reason to point to Frum as a brave, reasonable republican?
I mean, it’s like saying any scientist who points out the sky is not actually blue, deserves a prestigious science prize.

7 EiMitch  Mon, May 14, 2012 10:41:59pm

re: #6 cinesimon


8 Ogami Itto  Tue, May 15, 2012 8:28:45am

Shorter David Frum: Both sides do it.

9 What, me worry?  Tue, May 15, 2012 11:26:36am

re: #3 cinesimon

Boy are you right on the money! Bravo!

Democrats have been trying to discuss economics and jobs for years (and I’ll add healthcare to that). I’d say from the moment Obama took his seat in the Whitehouse and each time we have been sidelined by bullshit, social politics. Religion in the classroom. The killing of Darwin. And the latest and greatest, the war on women; abortion, birth control, paying for healthcare services for women. Here are the Republicans, NOT the Democrats dragging back much of the discourse, some of it by 100 years! And worse, trying to make law out of it. Didn’t Fox news have some preacher on last week that said women shouldn’t have the vote? HELLOOO????? Yea, say that in front of Soledad.

Frum is trying desperately to be the magical balance fairy and it doesn’t work.

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