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1 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, May 22, 2012 4:54:39pm

Fucking Republicans

2 researchok  Tue, May 22, 2012 5:06:41pm

I agree with the sentiment, for sure. Free speech is sacred in a free society.

But then I think of the kids who killed themselves after being bullied, harassed or tormented anonymously because of their sexual orientation, etc.

I just don't know.

3 Daniel Ballard  Tue, May 22, 2012 5:27:40pm

re: #2 researchok
Yes, that's a totally legit point.
The solution for that sort of thing simply had to fall within the law. There are other remedies available.

4 researchok  Tue, May 22, 2012 5:32:26pm

re: #3 Daniel Ballard

Agreed- tough penalties- really tough penalties, maybe with mandatory sentencing if the bullying leads to death or other trauma.

Brave new world, you know?

I didn't want to upding because I was uncomfortable with the characterization, but I realized the story and discussion are far more important.

5 Dark_Falcon  Tue, May 22, 2012 5:36:47pm

re: #4 researchok

Agreed- tough penalties- really tough penalties, maybe with mandatory sentencing if the bullying leads to death or other trauma.

Brave new world, you know?

I didn't want to upding because I was uncomfortable with the characterization, but I realized the story and discussion are far more important.

I don't like the characterization, but I had to upding because its directly relevant to LGF. Any state enacting a law like this would effectively cut it citizens off from sites like ours, as blog hosts are not going to change their whole set up for one state.

6 wheat-dogg  Wed, May 23, 2012 7:18:58am

Why is it always Republicans trying to curtail the First Amendment? Aren't they the ones touting their love and admiration for the Constitution?

7 Buck  Wed, May 23, 2012 8:24:23am

re: #4 researchok

Agreed- tough penalties- really tough penalties, maybe with mandatory sentencing if the bullying leads to death or other trauma.

The question becomes how can you find the bullies without a law to expose them? Tough penalties is a great talking point, but useless without being able to know who the bullies are there is no way to bring them to justice.

I have personally been the victim of this sort of bullying. I really don't think that these cowards would be able to act this way if they know they were not protected by being anonymous. There is nothing in Free Speech that suggests it should be anonymous.

8 What, me worry?  Wed, May 23, 2012 11:03:30am

I think this is a great idea!

Signed,

I.P. Freeley
Ilene South
Iona Ford
Al Dante
Ali Kat
Anita Bath
Barry Cade
Bill Loney

9 Aye Pod  Wed, May 23, 2012 11:14:50am

I think this law would help cyberbullies by giving them real identities to get to work on.

10 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 23, 2012 12:17:05pm

re: #8 What, me worry?

I think this is a great idea!

Signed,

I.P. Freeley
Ilene South
Iona Ford
Al Dante
Ali Kat
Anita Bath
Barry Cade
Bill Loney

Um, you forgot Ben Dover. I'm pretty sure he'd sign this.

11 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 23, 2012 12:20:40pm

Did you know that Ima Hogg was a real person?

12 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, May 23, 2012 12:21:17pm

And, in all seriousness, the entire middle school structure needs revamping.

Way more adults paying way more attention, to begin with.

13 Decatur Deb  Wed, May 23, 2012 12:23:02pm

re: #12 Mostly sane, most of the time.

And, in all seriousness, the entire middle school structure needs revamping.

Way more adults paying way more attention, to begin with.

"No home training...we can't do a thing if there's no home training."

--Sister Marita, D.P.

14 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 23, 2012 12:33:27pm

re: #2 researchok

I agree with the sentiment, for sure. Free speech is sacred in a free society.

But then I think of the kids who killed themselves after being bullied, harassed or tormented anonymously because of their sexual orientation, etc.

I just don't know.

That won't be solved by taking away rights, it'll be solved by changing the school system (which means it won't be solved)

15 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 23, 2012 12:34:53pm

also imagine any community on the internet where anonymity is key, support groups

So online AA groups would be forced to out themselves

16 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Wed, May 23, 2012 12:36:22pm

Seems like Republicans are just mini-Putins.

17 nines09  Wed, May 23, 2012 12:50:57pm

The road to hell is paved with good intentions? This is not for anyone but the jerkoffs pushing it. I cannot see a GOP/ TP candidate anywhere giving a rats ass about any gay or lesbian bullying anywhere. Call me callous. I think they just want more control. Period.

18 [deleted]  Wed, May 23, 2012 12:58:50pm
19 Romantic Heretic  Wed, May 23, 2012 1:53:33pm

This isn't something that the law can deal with without skirting dangerously close to tyranny.

Ethics can deal with it. If people were able to say, "I shouldn't do that," or "I can't do this anonymously," and not do those things it would be better than law.

But ours isn't a society big on ethics, in my opinion.

20 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, May 23, 2012 2:30:47pm

re: #17 Not Sold In Stores! Act NOW!

The road to hell is paved with good intentions? This is not for anyone but the jerkoffs pushing it. I cannot see a GOP/ TP candidate anywhere giving a rats ass about any gay or lesbian bullying anywhere. Call me callous. I think they just want more control. Period.

Of course they fucking do!


If you ever want to see the entire hacker culture of the world turn its sights on new york, this would do it :D

21 Daniel Ballard  Wed, May 23, 2012 2:49:05pm

re: #9 Aye Pod

I think this law would help cyberbullies by giving them real identities to get to work on.

Very interesting point there.

22 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Thu, May 24, 2012 9:51:34am
“remove any comments posted on his or her website by an anonymous poster unless such anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post.”

They really just don't get the concept of "anonymous" do they? If your name is on it then your not an "anonymous poster" are you? Besides which the vast majority of internet posters do not use their given name, they use a screen name. How is a web master of a site supposed to in any way sort posts made under a real given name from those made anonymously when no system exists (or can without a worldwide effort that would cost trillions and require the cooperation of every country on the planet) to verify the identity of posters?

This is just more pointless, unenforceable, costly, intrusive, free speech curtailing legislation brought to you by the party of "Small Government."
(who also apparently do not have a clue as to how the internet works)

23 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, May 25, 2012 5:17:46am

"Won't anybody think of the children!!!!1"

Blecch.


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