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1 freetoken  Wed, May 30, 2012 6:25:53pm
This is where we find ourselves today. The current usage of “Judeo-Christian” is a misnomer. Conservatives use the term in an attempt to make their beliefs and philosophy seem more inclusive than it actually is while quietly offending many who are on the “Judeo” side of the term in the process.

Certainly.

But it is also a lie they tell themselves. American Christian “conservatives” have a view of history they have crafted, which tells them that Jesus believed exactly as they, and that this is what true Judaism ought to be.

2 freetoken  Wed, May 30, 2012 6:29:41pm
On a simpler level it boils down to this: Jews (except for those who identify as Messianic Jews) reject the idea that Christ was the Messiah prophesised about in the Old Testament.

Me being pedantic here: Replace “Christ” with “the Jesus of the Gospels and Paul’s letters”, and replace “Old Testament” with “late antiquity Jewish writings such as Daniel, and apocalyptic Jewish communities such as those which revere the Book of Enoch.”

3 SpaceJesus  Wed, May 30, 2012 6:45:31pm

The whole term Judeo-Christian is used by the right in order to try and draw for them some kind of linear spiritual progression from primitive Jew to advanced Christian. Like a Jew is just some kind of early, primitive, less-advanced stage of Christian. They haven’t entirely dropped the anti-semitism of their grandparents.

See Ann Coulter:

4 Ogami Itto  Thu, May 31, 2012 12:12:17am

re: #3 SpaceJesus

See Ann Coulter

No thank you. :-)

5 What's in the box, Jokey?!  Thu, May 31, 2012 4:14:18am

re: #3 SpaceJesus

See Ann Coulter:

I’d rather not - I’ve had enough childhood cartoon-themed nightmares as it is, really don’t need Skeletor tossed into the mix as well…

6 sffilk  Thu, May 31, 2012 6:57:32am

I’d recently thought that “Judeo-Christian” was Christian-speak for “I don’t like what the Jews stand for, but I have to sound inclusive.” To me, it meant “Christian,” because up until 1965, the “Judeo-Christian” pint of view also said that the Jews killed Jesus.

7 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 31, 2012 7:12:35am

I have to admit the phrase puzzles me too considering that the ideological ancestors of the same people who say it are those who engaged in some of the worst excesses of Anti-Semitism. Catholicism had a huge problem with outward Anti-Semitism until very recently. And even those who say Anti-Semite things usually defend themselves with a “but I love and support the state of Israel.” Call me skeptical but that support seems shallow if it’s based on religious reasons. Anyone remember when Robertson prayed for Sharon to die?

8 sffilk  Thu, May 31, 2012 7:39:31am

re: #7 HappyWarrior

I have to admit the phrase puzzles me too considering that the ideological ancestors of the same people who say it are those who engaged in some of the worst excesses of Anti-Semitism. Catholicism had a huge problem with outward Anti-Semitism until very recently. And even those who say Anti-Semite things usually defend themselves with a “but I love and support the state of Israel.” Call me skeptical but that support seems shallow if it’s based on religious reasons. Anyone remember when Robertson prayed for Sharon to die?

Of how about the famous phrase: “G-D does not hear the prayer of a Jew”?

9 EiMitch  Thu, May 31, 2012 9:49:12am

I wouldn’t mind testing to see if one of those creeps really did have what it takes to kick my a…

What? O-o-o-oh! JudEo-Christian. Derp, my bad.

What?! Nobody else had the guts to use that lame pun, so I took one for the team.

Wait a minute! Do you think that self-righteous label deserves to be taken seriously? I don’t. Its as pretentious as it is a backhanded slight to jews.

10 ReamWorks SKG  Thu, May 31, 2012 10:08:25am

“except for those who identify as Messianic Jews”

We call those people “Christians.”

11 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 31, 2012 10:47:11am

re: #10 ReamWorks SKG

“except for those who identify as Messianic Jews”

We call those people “Christians.”

Unless they wave the yellow flag.

12 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Thu, May 31, 2012 10:49:13am

re: #11 Learned Mother of Zion

Unless they wave the yellow flag.

Speaking of this, are there a lot of Elokists around, or is there just one guy with a blog?


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