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1 jvic  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 4:58:13pm

The privately financed Dutch company has a plan. All it needs is a lot of cash, equipment and four Mars-bound astronauts who are willing to take a one-way trip to the red planet.

Fixed it.

I am enthusiastic about private enterprise in space. Hopefully developments to date are just the beginning, but it's inevitable that there will be setbacks---and scams.

Buyer beware.

2 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:33:03pm

Lets see, a spacecraft capable of the 21-23 month round trip to Mars (including an approx. 3 month mandatory layover at Mars until the orbital mechanics were aligned to head back), and capable of carrying four people, that also included a lander to ferry four people to the surface of Mars and then return them to orbit should only cost what? $1.0 to 1.5 trillion? Tops maybe $2 trillion.

That should be a snap for a "privately financed Dutch company" to raise from bonds to produce a "reality" T.V. show...uhh...right?

3 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:38:57pm

re: #2 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Lets see, a spacecraft capable of the 21-23 month round trip to Mars (including an approx. 3 month mandatory layover at Mars until the orbital mechanics were aligned to head back), and capable of carrying four people, that also included a lander to ferry four people to the surface of Mars and then return them to orbit should only cost what? $1.0 to 1.5 trillion? Tops maybe $2 trillion.

That should be a snap for a "privately financed Dutch company" to raise from bonds to produce a "reality" T.V. show...uhh...right?

Says "One-way trip". Could drop the cost by an order of magnitude. (Most 16th cent. colonists and seafarers were on 1-way tickets.)

4 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:42:53pm

re: #3 Decatur Deb

Says "One-way trip". Could drop the cost by an order of magnitude. (Most 16th cent. colonists and seafarers were on 1-way tickets.)

So we would get to watch them all die? Wow, that would definitely help them increase market share in their time slot along with making the marketing and insurance requirements a lot easier. ;)

5 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 5:44:59pm

re: #4 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

So we would get to watch them all die? Wow, that would definitely help them increase market share in their time slot along with making the marketing and insurance requirements a lot easier. ;)

Optimist. They and their children get to watch us die of stupidity.

6 jvic  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:46:42pm

re: #4 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

So we would get to watch them all die?

Joan Vinge's View from a Height features a "bubble girl" with an autoimmune disease that precludes human contact. She is sent out on a one-way scientific mission far above the plane of the solar system:

...I looked out into the starfields that lie on every side. Even with my own poor, unaugmented senses there's so much more to see out here, unimpeded by atmosphere or dust, undominated by any sun's glare. The brilliance of the Milky Way, the depths of star and nebula and farthest galaxy breathlessly suspended . . . as I am. The realization that I'm lost for eternity in an uncharted sea.

Strangely, although that thought aroused a very powerful emotion when it struck me, it wasn't a negative one at all: It was from another scale of values entirely; like the universe itself. It was as if the universe itself stretched out its finger to touch me. And in touching me, singling me out, it only heightened my awareness of my own insignificance.

That was somehow very comforting. When you confront the absolute indifference of magnitudes and vistas so overwhelming, the swollen ego of your self-important suffering is diminished. . . .

Thirty-five years after it was written, the story has retained its power. If you haven't read it, I recommend seeking it out; if you have, why not read it again?

7 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 6:59:23pm

re: #6 jvic

Joan Vinge's View from a Height features a "bubble girl" with an autoimmune disease that precludes human contact. She is sent out on a one-way scientific mission far above the plane of the solar system:

Thirty-five years after it was written, the story has retained its power. If you haven't read it, I recommend seeking it out; if you have, why not read it again?


Aniara
poem cycle describes a Mars colony ship thrown out of the solar system. After watching Earth die, its dead passengers drift to Lyra.


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