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1 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:22:27pm

That Pastor Gray sums up human evolution as "Apes with less hair" makes me think he has no idea what the &%** he is talking about and NO ONE should listen to him! LOL.

2 renata39.5  Tue, Jun 5, 2012 10:39:36pm

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That Pastor Gray sums up human evolution as "Apes with less hair" makes me think he has no idea what the &%** he is talking about and NO ONE should listen to him! LOL.

I spent the greater part of my life believing that evolution taught that humans evolved from apes, eg. the very apes we see around us today. I did not go to public school, obviously. It, embarrassingly, wasn't until a few years ago I learned that is not what evolution teaches, that in reality evolution teaches that modern apes and humans evolved from a common ancestor type long ago. That is not remotely the same thing as saying the evolution teaches humans evolved from apes. There is a lot of disingenuousness in the "Creation Science" camp. A lot of people in that camp probably believe, as I did, that is actually what evolution teaches. But the fact cannot be escaped that those with multiple degrees in science, those who absolutely learned what evolution teaches, are fudging the truth, to put it mildly. Now I'm having to relearn science, but there are a lot of people who will remain in the echo chamber of creationism. And some, like this church, who try to foist their echo chamber on others. I believe they truly have good intentions, and truly believe what they're doing is for the best of all society; but that only makes it more vital that the rest of us stop them.

3 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jun 6, 2012 10:00:17am

Creationist propaganda is an exercise in deception, so riddled with strawmen and half-truths that I suspect its proponents of cynically preferring these kinds of fallacious arguments even when the facts might suit them. The leaders of this cult are evil people; not mistaken, misguided, or ignorant but willfully and gleefully deceptive.
Creationist liars often assert, falsely, that radio-carbon dating is the basis for geological dating. Then they point out, truthfully, that RC is useless for dates in that range or for inorganic samples. Combining the lie with the truth, they triumphantly proclaim all geohistory to be false. The necessary inference, that the world scientific community has been involved in a uniform conspiracy of deception for 150 years, escapes them; and they feel no need to cite any evidence for the existence of such a conspiracy.


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