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1 Atlas Fails  Sat, Jun 23, 2012 8:10:41pm

This was a great, well-researched piece. It's a shame you can't confront that buffoon King with such a devastating report.

2 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jun 23, 2012 8:41:02pm

re: #1 Atlas Fails

Thanks. Even if I could confront him with it I doubt he'd care. He doesn't seem to be interested in facts or in doing anything useful that might actually make us safer.

3 What, me worry?  Sat, Jun 23, 2012 9:20:44pm

Bravo, CL! Good work! His bigotry has taken him. He can't even be a good cop. Maybe he's calling out a dogwhistle to people like Geller, Spencer and Malkin.

4 CuriousLurker  Sat, Jun 23, 2012 9:52:49pm

re: #3 What, me worry?

Thanks. ;) My spidey sense has been tingling, so I'll probably be doing a Page on the others soon too.

5 ghazidor  Sat, Jun 23, 2012 11:21:08pm

Has anybody else here read "GameChanger" by "Dr." Mike Evans yet? It is the first installment of something quite like the "Left Behind" series only very slightly better written, and of course the bad guys are every Muslim or Arabic person on earth.

It was a New York Times Bestseller and is already achieving cult popularity amongst the Evangelical circles. I finally broke down and read it after it had been urged on me for the fourth time as a "must read" by Evangelical family members and even neighbors.

Of course it is a horribly far fetched and improbable story, and one that could undoubtedly have been more entertaining and imaginative if not for the necessity of trying to contort the story to fit within biblical prophesy.

*Spoiler*

Iran destroys America as both an economic and military power for generations to come by successfully detonating one high altitude 5 kiloton (OMG!!) nuclear warhead above Washington D.C. and the "EMP pulse" from the warhead destroys every power plant, generator, automobile, powerline, computer, telephone, battery, etc, etc, etc...for more than a 500 mile radius. So America loses everything East of Cincinnati from below Atlanta, Georgia all the way up to Maine (including New York of course).

It is pure apocalyptic fantasy even before you add all the religious propaganda and prophecy into the mix. But that is not what really bothers me about the book, after all I have read much worse religiously based doomsday scenarios in my time.

What bothers me is the way that anyone of Arabic descent, much less a practicing Muslim is portrayed as a deep cover sleeper agent here to destroy America from within (yes, even if they were born here). If your name is Samar or Jamal then you are obviously a traitor in the employee of either Iran or Al Qaeda. (Oh yeah BTW, Mike Evans? The supposed expert on the Middle East? Has the Sunni and Shia working hand in hand and only pretending to dislike each other in order to fool the "stupid" Western intelligence agencies.)

Even worse is his repeated insistence in the book that this is now a war of Muslims against Christians and that once the Christians are eliminated the Muslims will then go on to enslave the rest of the world under the Muslim theocracy.

It is scary to think that this is already becoming part of the Evangelical biblical canon in this country...I write better fiction for alt sex stories, where are all of my disciples?

6 What, me worry?  Sun, Jun 24, 2012 8:50:52am

re: #5 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Gahhh! The War on Muslims is soooo 2001.

But yea, we gotta speak out against this. Not to go all Godwin, but it happens to be a fact. Hitler didn't start out by driving huge tanks down main street. He started with "anti" propaganda aimed at a nationalist ideology, mainly anti-union, banned abortion, hated liberals and despised diversity to the point of rounding up Jews and killing them. And who does that remind you of?

I couldn't help but shake my head and laugh while Michelle Malkin was ranting and raving about the Twitter Gulag. You'd think that a woman who so loves internment enough to publish a racist screed about it wouldn't be so cranky about gulags.

7 CuriousLurker  Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:15:59am

re: #5 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Unfortunately, the plot of this book doesn't surprise me at all. Trying to combat the scare mongering is a sisyphean task because there's a ton of money and people & organizations promoting it.

Look how long this page is. It took me a couple of hours to assemble & organize my references and put things together in coherent form. It would've taken much longer if I didn't already have many of the references on hand. All that effort was for what? To debunk just FOUR sentences uttered by ONE politician.

There is an ocean of negative stuff out there and it's constantly being replenished. It's almost impossible to search Google for anything related to Islam or Muslims and not have anti-Muslim hate sites or other types of misinformation show up in the first page of results, and how many people dig deeper than the first few pages? Even if they did, how would they judge what's legit and what's not? Not all the haters are as obvious as Geller, BNI, et al—I've run across some stuff that was very slick & understated in it's presentation.

To make matters even more confusing, even when there are legitimate sites you have Sunni, Shia, Isma'ili, etc. Then there is the Sufi perspective. Moving away from the mainstream you have the Ahmadis (they're prettty tame, but not at all mainstream), and the Salafi, Wahhabi, and radical Islamist/Jihadist sites.

If that still isn't enough, you can add to the mix well respected scholars, scientists, etc. who aren't out & out anti-Muslim, but whose articles have an obvious undercurrent of Islamophobia. When I say "obvious" I mean obvious to Muslims or people with extensive knowledge of Islam. It's like how non-Jews or people unfamiliar with Judaism might not detect undercurrents of anti-Semitism or biased language in books, articles, and news stories, but a Jew would notice it instantly. *SIGH* It's gonna be a long & bumpy road, but we're in it for the long haul.

The dogs bark, but the caravan move on.

8 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Jun 24, 2012 9:16:40am

re: #5 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

This man has obviously not done his research. A '5 kilo-ton' warhead requires a very high level of nuclear weapons technology. Even the very first weapons that the U.S. built were from twice to five times that much.

Then there is the delivery of the weapon. That is very tricky. It's going to require an ICBM (which Iran is nowhere near capable of building.) An intercontinental range bomber could be used (which they are also not close to building and no one will sell them one. Russia and China are closer and Iran hates them just as much as the U.S.) Or they sneak it in (but then they can't depend on accurate placement.)

Furthermore I sincerely doubt the EMP would cause that much damage over such a large area. Especially since most of the important electronics are 'hardened' against such a thing. Twenty minutes after such a bomb goes off Tehran will be a set of radioactive craters.

On top of that Iranians are not Arabs, and they are Shiites, which means the chances of them working with Sunni Arabs is about that of the U.S. working with North Korea.

But, let's face it. This sort of thing plays into the paranoid delusions of that portion of the American citizenry which is ignorant and afraid and likes being ignorant and afraid.

"Dr." Mike Evans, and his followers are what the Klingons would call tokhe straav. Willing slave. Enslaved to their hate, anger and fear.

Oh, and CL? Great page.

9 SidewaysQuark  Sun, Jun 24, 2012 1:11:50pm

This should be a front page article.


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