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1 Atlas Fails  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 3:24:31pm

This is getting tiresome. Charles, if you’re listening, can you please ban this bot? I’m sure it won’t protest.

2 Buck  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 4:10:49pm

What is your problem?

3 Eclectic Infidel  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 4:24:03pm

re: #1 Atlas Fails

This is getting tiresome. Charles, if you’re listening, can you please ban this bot? I’m sure it won’t protest.

Why? Said poster doesn’t violate forum rules, far as I know. And many lizards have taken it upon themselves to start lively discussions where otherwise it would just be another bland post.

4 Atlas Fails  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 7:43:21pm

re: #2 Buck

What is your problem?

This poster is a known bot who always links to articles that are either anti-Palestinian or, like this one, ridiculously conspiratorial. Complaining that the media doesn’t mention Israel’s history of welcoming refugees when it reports on alleged immigrant abuses is like saying nobody can point out the U.S.’s troubling history on race relations without also mentioning that it was the world’s first modern democracy. Sorry, but doing something nice doesn’t automatically exempt you from everything ever.

5 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 3, 2012 8:23:56pm

re: #4 Atlas Fails

This poster is a known bot who always links to articles that are either anti-Palestinian or, like this one, ridiculously conspiratorial. Complaining that the media doesn’t mention Israel’s history of welcoming refugees when it reports on alleged immigrant abuses is like saying nobody can point out the U.S.’s troubling history on race relations without also mentioning that it was the world’s first modern democracy. Sorry, but doing something nice doesn’t automatically exempt you from everything ever.

No, but it’s reasonable to ask if coverage has been reasonably even-handed or well-informed, which some of it has not. Phoebe Greenwood, in the London Guardian, has been particularly problematic.

This is not a made-up problem, although some of what Aigle reports is silly sniping at Reuters. There is a genuine problem when there are multiple condemnatory articles claiming to go in-depth on this subject which ignore Israel’s actual history both early and recent, current available options, and the context of the region. This is not too hard for journalists to do, and they need to do it.

I realize that people are immensely hurt that Aigle continues to be a bot, but if Charles wants it gone, Charles can ban it. What it brings up is sometimes stupid, but often relevent.

6 alinuxguru  Wed, Jul 4, 2012 4:43:45am

re: #4 Atlas Fails

This poster is a known bot who always links to articles that are either anti-Palestinian or, like this one, ridiculously conspiratorial.

You mean like posting stories that Arafat was poisoned by Polonium? That sort of ridiculously conspiratorial post?

7 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Jul 4, 2012 8:17:12am

re: #5 SanFranciscoZionist

I realize that people are immensely hurt that Aigle continues to be a bot,

I can just see the gnashing of teeth, pulling out of hair, and wailing….


:)

8 Buck  Wed, Jul 4, 2012 9:43:15am

re: #5 SanFranciscoZionist

I realize that people are immensely hurt that Aigle continues to be a bot

Immensely hurt? I can only think of one group that might feel uncomfortable with these posts, and that would be anyone who doesn’t like to hear about the media bias against Israel.

Only one group is hurt by hearing the truth.

9 Gus  Wed, Jul 4, 2012 9:46:30am

See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil.

10 Buck  Wed, Jul 4, 2012 9:53:01am

re: #4 Atlas Fails

So you don’t think that a proper reply to an article titled “Note to refugees from South Sudan: Israel is for the white man,” would to point out the truth about an immigration policy that has a long history of being blind to race?

You read that article, where Israel is accused of being a racist state and you don’t want to hear the other side? No need to, in a clear and concise way to point out the bias and inaccuracies?

Guess what? It is not an conspiracy if they really are out to get them.

11 Buck  Wed, Jul 4, 2012 10:00:26am

re: #4 Atlas Fails

Complaining that the media doesn’t mention Israel’s history of welcoming refugees when it reports on alleged immigrant abuses is like saying nobody can point out the U.S.’s troubling history on race relations without also mentioning that it was the world’s first modern democracy.

And no that is not a fair comparison. It is like calling the USA a non-democracy ie a dictatorship without pointing out that it is a democracy.

OR stating that the US immigration policy as based on only allowing white people to immigrate without pointing out the long history of welcoming refugees of all races.

Take your pick.

12 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 4, 2012 11:12:08am

re: #8 Buck

Immensely hurt? I can only think of one group that might feel uncomfortable with these posts, and that would be anyone who doesn’t like to hear about the media bias against Israel.

Only one group is hurt by hearing the truth.

Buck, that was sarcasm.

13 Buck  Wed, Jul 4, 2012 5:40:17pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

Buck, that was sarcasm.

Forgive me if I missed that.


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