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1 Curt  Fri, Jul 6, 2012 5:44:26am

Our entire society is based on access to energy...more so now that before. On top of that "just in time" delivery of just about any and everything has become honed to a fine art by UPS, WalMart, and their competitors. While that has resulted in far less need for local warehousing of items that would have been more readily available in the articles circumstances, we have gotten here in a massive effort to become more cost efficient, and the consumers have been as much a part of driving that model for the almost instant gratification as has industry for making it so....

A lack of food stamps isn't a proximate cause, it is the lack of food/water delivery systems, that, without energy sources, couldn't order for fulfillment, the replacement stocks of the rotting food.

Without fulfillment orders, the trucks don't run. Short of some one playing ahead of the game, as a corporation like HQ, which has their own in house planners for natural disasters, and then, in advances, ramps up the stockpiles and pre-positions them for distribution as soon as clearance to enter the area is granted, then the undocumented need is not rapidly met.

The bottom line: This recent issue of widespread power outages is but a glimpse of what any community will be in for when a major crisis hits, as "we" don't want the cost of large warehoused goods to add to the cost of our purchases, since we know a manufacturer, under routine circumstances, can move from the assembly line, to the store shelf in short order....and all around it saves money for all.

In all of that, blaming politicians doesn't correct the problems faced. And not liking the concept of climate change doesn't create storms, nor the like of it stop them.

As to the comment on the article about how capitalism is the cause, well, communism is full of stories about how centrally managed economies failed massively in man made and natural disasters (read about Soviet style collective farming failures)...so, it's not that, either.

At one time in our history, we committed money in the tax base for bomb shelters and civil defense, which, nuclear bombs or not, were to help in such outcomes, but since the Soviets went out of business, so to speak, we shifted that money to social programs (under Clinton), rather than bank it. Can we blame someone for that?

If anything, where is FEMA? Isn't that their charter? Wasn't that the uproar after Katrina? No mention of that Federal Agency, not hamstrung by anything other than it's own leadership, not being put into high gear to address such issues, if the state leadership has tapped out all resources to handle the disaster.

If you want to help yourself, keeping three days worth of food/water stocks at home will go a long way towards mitigating this issue for everyone. That has some cost, but it's not that much, when you weigh against this sort of conditions. Even with significant resources coming in as relief efforts, in a well coordinated manner, the logistics can't deliver to everyone's doorstep as soon as a storm clears up.

2 Interesting Times  Fri, Jul 6, 2012 9:12:56pm

re: #1 Curt

You completely miss the larger point.

If you want to help yourself, keeping three days worth of food/water stocks at home

And pray tell how is someone on food stamps supposed to do that, especially when the program is facing GOP-demanded cutbacks? Gutting social programs leaves the poor and vulnerable in a far worse position to prepare for and cope with disasters.

And not liking the concept of climate change doesn't create storms, nor the like of it stop them.

Rubbish strawman. And again, you miss the larger point: accepting climate science (which, by the way, the US military does!) leads to better planning to cope with the resulting disasters. Burying your head in the sand (or up a certain orifice) means you'll be putting more people in harm's way, because durr hurr sea level rise is a librul concept and we can build along the eroding coast if we want. Derp.

As to the comment on the article about how capitalism is the cause, well, communism is full of stories about how centrally managed economies failed

Yes, because capitalism and communism are the only economic systems that can ever exist and you can only have one or the other 9_9 Gathering this many strawmen together in one comment isn't such a good idea given the current drought/fire conditions, now is it? :P

At any rate, the big picture is this: climate-change-turned-climate-chaos is happening. If nothing is done to mitigate greenhouse gas emissions, the current heat waves, forest fires, storms and resulting infrastructure damage will be even worse, to the point where this brutal summer will become a typical event. A political party that accepts this and may eventually do something about it is vastly, vastly preferable to an aggressively anti-science stupid one enamored with short-term profits and magical thinking to the detriment of all.


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