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1 Destro  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 5:47:01am

America's culture is sick. I called it homicidal and got flamed for it. Fair enough, no one likes to hear such talk.

But the appalling murder rate for the USA, an industrialized, democratic first world nation is 5.9/100k people on par with Iraq's murder rate, a lawless anarchic war zone, which is 6.7/100k people.

That is - I can't find the right words - fucked up? disgusting? sick?

Maybe the USA does not have a gun problem but a cultural problem?

By the way, god fearing America has more murders than secular god ignoring Western Europeans so all that church going and praying ain't helping much it seems.

2 Political Atheist  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 11:30:13am

re: #1 Destro

So it's sick to want to be able to defend yourself?

Too many murders is sad and sick. Wanting to protect yourself or your family is not.

3 Destro  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 11:50:28am

re: #2 Daniel Ballard

So it's sick to want to be able to defend yourself?

Too many murders is sad and sick. Wanting to protect yourself or your family is not.

Ok, this is what you are not getting. Why do you need to defend yourself like this? (What you said is actually false. Most gun deaths are not the result of a defender attacking criminal. But it is a closely held myth that the NRA types cling to).

Why do you live in a society that is slightly less homicidal than war torn Iraq? Like I wrote another thread and I repeat here, I assumed it was because of all the guns Americans have they are trigger happy but Canadians have just as many guns per capita as Americans (if not more so) and they are nowhere near this violent. Ditto for the rest of the industrialized world.

So maybe it is not a gun problem but an American culture problem that America is so violently homicidal.


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