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1 jhncsy  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 10:45:37am

Well, you can work hard and make it to the top without any assistance- but that doesn't mean you will. You're competing against both the people who are trying to make it, and the people who have already made it, and want to stay on top. And, many times, you won't get that one lucky break that puts you ahead.

Speaking from personal experience, my mother works six days a week and my father is grabbing every part-time job he can because no one wants to hire full-time workers. They work hard, and they're still one disaster away from losing everything. Hard work means nothing if the guys on top of the hill don't feel like sharing.

2 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 10:57:15am
Where was your government when I spent as much as 16 weeks away from my wife and infant son to get a business started?

Providing safety and security for your wife and infant son via the police and the fire department, ensuring that they are protected in your absence. And although you chose not to take advantage of any of the numerous programs available, the government still made programs available to ensure that your infant son would have his health cared for and have ready access to healthy food.

Where were you on those cold winter nights when my old bus broke down in the middle of nowhere and we had to scramble to make the next show, nobody from the government came along to give us a ride.

But they did build the roads so that you even had a chance to get to your show in time in the first place. And these days there just might be someone to give you a ride -- look at Georgia and the HERO units that regularly patrol its highways, in trucks full of repair equipment to provide assistance to drivers that need it. Just one more of those "wasteful government spending projects", I suppose.

Where was your government when I had to borrow money from a bank to make my payroll?

Insuring that bank via the FDIC so that your borrowing could take place with some reasonable guarantee of safety.

Where was your government while I was digging out of a two million dollar debt, playing every smoky beer joint I could to keep from losing everything I owned?

You got yourself into two million dollars of debt. That is not the government's fault or problem. Most sane people don't put themselves into millions of dollars of debt in the first place. Most people COULDN'T put themselves into that much debt, even if they wanted to, because banks would stop lending to them well before then. Privilege much?

3 Agnoton  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 10:58:31am

Uh, that's "imply", not "infer", Mr Daniels.
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4 alinuxguru  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 11:36:27am

Chuck Norris, Matt Damons Mother, now Charlie Daniels. Mitt Romney is clearly getting those critical endorsements that he needs.

5 nines09  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 11:57:49am

Charlie was much more fun when he got high in the morning and drunk in the afternoon.

6 thecommodore  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 12:42:53pm

And Laura Ingraham will tell him to "shut up and sing" in three...two...one...

Guess not...

7 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 12:52:36pm
Where was your government when I had to borrow money from a bank to make my payroll?

Insuring that bank via the FDIC so that your borrowing could take place with some reasonable guarantee of safety.

This

8 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 12:54:04pm
Well, that just won’t flush in a lot of ways, the most prominent being that when all the productive people have given up and stopped trying, when all the investors stop investing, when 80% of the population is living on government hand outs, your government is going to run out of money and this nation will sink into chaos.

Oh geez, this going Galt business again? Please go ahead and go Galt why don't you. I'm still waiting.

9 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 12:56:56pm

When Charlie Daniels and his buds give up, there will be a shortage of shitty country music.

10 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 1:18:41pm

re: #9 Decatur Deb

When Charlie Daniels and his buds give up, there will be a shortage of shitty country music.

Thought Charlie'd given it up long ago. What is he, 110 by now?

11 majii  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 2:17:12pm

I'm a Black American, and the sudden concern that right-wingers seem to have for Black Americans amuses me. These are the same people that think that doing anything that helps certain members of this society to get ahead is an "entitlement." Black Americans are used to making it through tough times because many of us have always had to. If these folks think that talking about the 14% unemployment rate of Black Americans is going to cause a majority of us to turn against the president, they need to think again. We know we'd fare even worse under a republican president and a Congress with a republican majority. We're not as stupid as they think we are, and I think that is why they get so frustrated that a majority of us won't vote for republican politicians. We vote for politicians for the same reason they do: we vote for the candidate whose vision/policies are similar to own. I grew up in 1950s America under segregation, and the reason I don't vote for republicans is because of the way they denigrate all Americans who don't embrace their positions and vision for the nation. I refuse to allow hatred of others or religion to persuade me to vote for those whom I know have no real love for our country, and whose main goal is to transform it into a plutocracy.

12 What, me worry?  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 5:10:58pm

re: #4 alinuxguru

Chuck Norris, Matt Damons Mother, now Charlie Daniels. Mitt Romney is clearly getting those critical endorsements that he needs.

I'm thinking, at least Norris and Daniels wouldn't vote for Obama if he was the only guy running, so.... Haven't followed Matt's politics.

But anyway, if you want to cherry-pick out the comment, "If you have a business you didn’t build it, you had help” you're as much a liar as Mitt. That's not nearly the end, the beginning or meaning of that statement if they bothered to listen to the speech.

And Obama's right anyway and they all know it. Mr. Charlie Daniels wouldn't be anywhere without FANS. So Pfffttt....

If he thinks that President Obama hasn't worked hard to get to Harvard, hard to become the President of Law Review, hard to become a professor, senator AND president, etc. well he's more ignorant than I could imagine.

Background noises.

13 What, me worry?  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 5:39:03pm

re: #11 majii

I'm a Black American, and the sudden concern that right-wingers seem to have for Black Americans amuses me. These are the same people that think that doing anything that helps certain members of this society to get ahead is an "entitlement." Black Americans are used to making it through tough times because many of us have always had to. If these folks think that talking about the 14% unemployment rate of Black Americans is going to cause a majority of us to turn against the president, they need to think again. We know we'd fare even worse under a republican president and a Congress with a republican majority. We're not as stupid as they think we are, and I think that is why they get so frustrated that a majority of us won't vote for republican politicians. We vote for politicians for the same reason they do: we vote for the candidate whose vision/policies are similar to own. I grew up in 1950s America under segregation, and the reason I don't vote for republicans is because of the way they denigrate all Americans who don't embrace their positions and vision for the nation. I refuse to allow hatred of others or religion to persuade me to vote for those whom I know have no real love for our country, and whose main goal is to transform it into a plutocracy.

I couldn't agree more.

The irony is that not too long ago, about 8 years, the majority of welfare recipients were single, white, females with 2 children. The average amount of time spent on welfare was 6 months. With Clinton's welfare reform, most folks can't stay on welfare more than 2 years. And while I'm sure people have learned how to work the system, those are a small minority, even if we hear about them more often.

While the numbers have surely increased because of the recession, that doesn't mean that race, sex, or the demographic has changed. I'll have to hunt that up again.

14 Prideful, Arrogant Marriage Equality Advocate  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 6:18:12pm

First of all you do not make money in direct relation to how hard you work. I think Direct sales scams came up with that beauty. There is only a certain amount of hours in a day and everyone has got to sleep. I read someone argue once that someone may work harder physically in a menial job but they don't have the same amount of stress someone who works running a big corporation does. Yes they can. If they are working 3 jobs with no days off and no vacation because they are stressed about their children going to college and another child in the hospital with cancer and they don't know how to afford everything, that can be a very stressful life. Also, not all wealthy people are running company's. And some wealthy people even married into it because they bought a great set of tits and gave really good blow jobs.
I think this whole thing about scolding Democrats for hating on the rich is ridiculous being propagated by the right to protect some tax money for some super rich people. Of all the people in the world, Americans, left included, LOVE wealth. They love capitalism. And most of all, Americans love to be a little masochistic. Wealthy ass holes and predator capitalism aren't going anywhere. They are staying right here where they are loved the most. So their is nothing for the right to worry about!
I hope not to offend wealthy people who are not ass holes because there are plenty of them as well.

15 calochortus  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 8:18:30pm

Don't be silly. Everyone knows that government services that benefit me are the legitimate business of government. Government services that benefit you are obviously immoral, take away what is rightfully mine, and are making you lazy.
I'm surprised you folks don't recognize that.../

16 calochortus  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 8:20:30pm

re: #8 Bulworth

I'm still waiting to find out who picks up the trash and cleans the toilets in Galt Gulch (or whatever it's called.) Certainly not those important, productive people.

17 Destro  Wed, Jul 25, 2012 10:05:21pm

re: #2 GunstarGreen

Perfect reply.


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