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1 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jul 26, 2012 11:06:58am

The right wing media machine went there immediately, since there is no such thing as a genuine hate-crime to them. To us, however, facts matter. We'll have to wait for the facts, then we shall see.

2 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jul 26, 2012 11:11:38am

re: #1 Shiplord Kirel

The right wing media machine went there immediately, since there is no such thing as a genuine hate-crime to them. To us, however, facts matter. We shall see.

The problem is that previous "hate crimes" with this same MO have all turned out to be self-inflicted. I can think of 3 such hoaxes: Tawana Brawley, a teacher in Michigan who wrote homophobic slurs all over her own car, and a McCain supporter who scratched something on her own forehead.

How many real hate crimes of someone scratching slurs into the victim's body have taken place?

Also, this is from SPLC, not the "right wing media machine."

3 Destro  Thu, Jul 26, 2012 11:42:50am

re: #1 Shiplord Kirel

The right wing media machine went there immediately, since there is no such thing as a genuine hate-crime to them. To us, however, facts matter. We'll have to wait for the facts, then we shall see.

I am not a right winger but I called this as hoaxy because in all cases that I know of where there was some sort were the victim's face was written on, etc all turned out to be hoaxes like Morton Downey, Jr, and that crazy lady that claimed someone wrote an O on her face for Obama.

4 theheat  Thu, Jul 26, 2012 11:49:14am

I got a weird vibe when I first read the story. Not that it couldn't happen, but that it probably didn't happen. If she staged the entire grisly ordeal, who knows what her motives might be, other than national attention and victimhood. For some people that's more than enough.

5 theheat  Thu, Jul 26, 2012 11:50:23am

re: #2 Learned Mother of Zion

Remember the census taker that scrawled stuff on his body before killing himself, and everyone thought he was murdered? Stranger things have happened. Not saying it did, but that it's possible.

6 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jul 26, 2012 11:52:56am

Better if it is a hoax--otherwise, people capable of doing this are still out there.

The state of mind this woman must be in though, if it is a hoax...

Good God.

There was another case just a couple of weeks ago, wasn't there? A guy was found with a concussion in a car park, and said 'four or five' black guys beat him up. Security footage shows him knocking himself cold doing a stunt on his skateboard.

7 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jul 26, 2012 12:46:59pm

What's unfortunate is if this is indeed a hoax, it will be used by anti gay bigots to claim that gays being attacked for being gay is a myth.

8 RadicalModerate  Thu, Jul 26, 2012 2:44:47pm

re: #2 Learned Mother of Zion

The problem is that previous "hate crimes" with this same MO have all turned out to be self-inflicted. I can think of 3 such hoaxes: Tawana Brawley, a teacher in Michigan who wrote homophobic slurs all over her own car, and a McCain supporter who scratched something on her own forehead.

How many real hate crimes of someone scratching slurs into the victim's body have taken place?

Also, this is from SPLC, not the "right wing media machine."

All of them?

You might want to tell that to tell that to this woman, who got her jaw broken in a similar type of attack.

[Link: www.wave3.com...]

9 steve_davis  Thu, Jul 26, 2012 2:58:41pm

re: #3 Destro

I am not a right winger but I called this as hoaxy because in all cases that I know of where there was some sort were the victim's face was written on, etc all turned out to be hoaxes like Morton Downey, Jr, and that crazy lady that claimed someone wrote an O on her face for Obama.

It wasn't an O. It was a B. And she unfortunately didn't realize she needed to reverse what she was doing in the mirror ;-). If it had been an O, she would have been all right.

10 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jul 26, 2012 3:08:43pm

re: #8 RadicalModerate

All of them?

You might want to tell that to tell that to this woman, who got her jaw broken in a similar type of attack.

[Link: www.wave3.com...]

The article you linked does not mention anything about hate slurs cut into the victim's body. Also, there are witnesses, unlike the fake events.

11 Destro  Thu, Jul 26, 2012 3:39:51pm

re: #9 steve_davis

It wasn't an O. It was a B. And she unfortunately didn't realize she needed to reverse what she was doing in the mirror ;-). If it had been an O, she would have been all right.

I am not the only one who remembers obscure face based hoaxes!


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