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1 AK-47%  Sat, Jul 28, 2012 2:45:44pm

Not to get too nitpicky about punctuation, but it is in the title, but which German? Or did you mean "The Germans' 'Total War'"?

2 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Sat, Jul 28, 2012 2:53:50pm

re: #1 Expand Your Ground

Not to get too nitpicky about punctuation, but it is in the title, but which German? Or did you mean "The Germans' 'Total War'"?

I think which German in particular pretty much goes without saying, but of course it is a difficult subject to discuss without committing a Godwin. Sorry for the confusion, but I just ain't gonna say that name... :p

3 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:03:29pm

Yet more evidence that the central thesis of John Keegan's book, A History of Warfare is true.

To whit, we must learn to limit warfare or humanity will destroy itself through the agency of tangata rima toto, the men with bloodied hands.

4 researchok  Sat, Jul 28, 2012 3:51:08pm

Something to think about:

Had the Allies bombed the crap out if Berlin before the war and left nothing standing, up to fifty million lives would have been saved.

50 Million.

Just sayin'

5 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Jul 28, 2012 6:58:15pm

They couldn't. The technology didn't exist.

Anyway I'm not sure it's a good idea to use accounting for ethical decisions.

6 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jul 28, 2012 7:29:33pm

re: #5 Romantic Heretic

They couldn't. The technology didn't exist.

Anyway I'm not sure it's a good idea to use accounting for ethical decisions.

Exactly. The peacetime RAF did not have anywhere near enough bombers with the range for a major mission against Berlin. Further, Greater Berlin's numerous lakes and large parks acted as fire breaks and limited the damage of bombing raids. Thus, no conventional raid on Berlin could have triggered the sort of firestorms seen in Hamburg or Tokyo.

7 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 28, 2012 8:01:34pm

re: #4 researchok

Something to think about:

Had the Allies bombed the crap out if Berlin before the war and left nothing standing, up to fifty million lives would have been saved.

50 Million.

Just sayin'

That tech didn't exist till July 16, 1945.


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